Return-Path: Received: from homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.208] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5479470 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 20 May 2014 02:37:43 +0200 Received: from homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F15578077 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 17:37:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=influxx.com; h= mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to; s=influxx.com; bh=tcoEyKT5ZdRw48IfoewgA9jYxo0=; b=cAsnIIw001fyURj11uNdsxe/ZTpV V2gXaj46zsuYRt4FlWi9FLHD6za2znrvh5wGf6zMbw1ogsGQvzzhqunSfwCZOx2x p6hD5jJKRowd70pQvA3PifpApSuL74p/HSjmZUpv0H6ZjN3FMmcxJvFWkjkmJVFL YFw6uVCJV3nhSVs= Received: from [192.168.0.12] (cpe-98-148-138-81.socal.res.rr.com [98.148.138.81]) (Authenticated sender: adam@influxx.com) by homiemail-a61.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BB6FA578071 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 17:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <12E9EAC3-4065-48C6-8799-EB7DA34F1502@influxx.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: adam mercado Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 17:37:40 -0700 To: "After Effects Mail List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) This discussion has been very useful. It has validated my decision =20 made months ago. I drew aline in the sand and I am halting at CS6 =20 until CC goes away. If it doesnt, then I'm on CS6 for the rest of my =20 career. Hopefully there will be enough blowback to force Adobe's =20 hand, if not now then over time. I dont honestly expect it will though. Adobe claims (at least I recall reading words to that effect) to be a =20= 'customer focused' company. I wonder how many customers were =20 clamouring for a CC model (over features or speed improvements) for =20 CC to be justified as a 'customer focused' move. Adam Mercado On May 19, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Brendan Bolles wrote: > On May 17, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Jim Curtis wrote: > >> Anyway=85 as I said, it's not outrageous at $600/year for all those =20= >> apps, even though that's about twice what I was used to paying to =20 >> stay current with Production Premium CS. >> >> I'm also paying for a lot of apps that I don't use. That's like =20 >> my health insurance going up to cover people who use services I =20 >> don't. I'm sure not going to start building web sites just =20 >> because the software to do it is available in my bundle. > > > I don't necessarily think of it as paying for apps you don't use so =20= > much as Adobe throwing those apps in to make Creative Cloud seem =20 > more attractive. If you were never going to pay for an app, =20 > doesn't cost them anything to give it to you for free. > > The key figure is that you now pay twice as much as before to stay =20 > current. I bet that's true for the vast majority of Creative Suite =20= > users. That's a pretty steep price hike. > > Really what has happened here is new users used to pay a lot more =20 > to get in the door, and existing users paid less for upgrades. =20 > Made sense because a new user just got thousands of features while =20 > an upgrade has maybe a hundred. But everyone pays the same now, so =20= > new users are getting a much better deal and veterans are picking =20 > up the slack. > > The important question is: are we better served by this model? =20 > Does it mean that Adobe gets to focus more on keeping existing =20 > users happy, or does it mean that Adobe can sit back and get lazy =20 > because we keep paying them even if they don't add anything we want? > > > Brendan > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to