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Subject: Re: [AE] CC subscription price increase
Message-Id: <4372EA35-4CE7-4318-86C6-9F977720CB06@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 21:46:59 -0400
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It sounds like you are a customer who has been properly marketed too and per=
haps following along a bit closer than the person whose costs have gone up f=
rom what they are used to and sees all this "stuff" that they will never use=
. Sure they can if they want to. And many may just bc hey they are paying fo=
r then so might as well.

To answer your important question... Are we better served... Well that depen=
ds in your point if view

Adobe now has a muxh more stable and strong earning stream from its software=
 business. Hopefully those dollars get turned more towards development and g=
oing into the coffer.  The Adobe that we see, like Todd, feel that they can b=
etter serve us with this model. So that's good.=20

But ultimately Adobe is a publicly traded corporation with ultimate responsi=
bility is to the shareholders. There will always be people upset with pricin=
g features etc. But as long as Adobe's numbers are good and continue to grow=
 I wouldn't expect any changes that favor us as consumers

> On May 19, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Brendan Bolles <brendan@fnordware.com> wrote:=

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>> On May 17, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Jim Curtis wrote:
>>=20
>> Anyway=E2=80=A6 as I said, it's not outrageous at $600/year for all those=
 apps, even though that's about twice what I was used to paying to stay curr=
ent with Production Premium CS. =20
>>=20
>> I'm also paying for a lot of apps that I don't use.  That's like my healt=
h insurance going up to cover people who use services I don't.  I'm sure not=
 going to start building web sites just because the software to do it is ava=
ilable in my bundle.
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>=20
> I don't necessarily think of it as paying for apps you don't use so much a=
s Adobe throwing those apps in to make Creative Cloud seem more attractive. =
 If you were never going to pay for an app, doesn't cost them anything to gi=
ve it to you for free.
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> The key figure is that you now pay twice as much as before to stay current=
.  I bet that's true for the vast majority of Creative Suite users.  That's a=
 pretty steep price hike.
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> Really what has happened here is new users used to pay a lot more to get i=
n the door, and existing users paid less for upgrades.  Made sense because a=
 new user just got thousands of features while an upgrade has maybe a hundre=
d.  But everyone pays the same now, so new users are getting a much better d=
eal and veterans are picking up the slack.
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> The important question is: are we better served by this model?  Does it me=
an that Adobe gets to focus more on keeping existing users happy, or does it=
 mean that Adobe can sit back and get lazy because we keep paying them even i=
f they don't add anything we want?
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>=20
> Brendan
>=20
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