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[24.90.203.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c90sm1023513qgd.3.2014.05.22.18.41.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 22 May 2014 18:41:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Rendernyc Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-FDCCAE61-FF96-4AB6-B498-39EB8DC90978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [AE] Quickest way to move a new layer to another object's position in 3D space? Message-Id: <919501E6-A5DD-4E46-BBE2-06416458F4F5@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 21:41:58 -0400 References: In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D167) --Apple-Mail-FDCCAE61-FF96-4AB6-B498-39EB8DC90978 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a difference but option and shift.=20 Option parenting will take in to account and initial transforms and parent w= ith that offest. Shift parenting zeroes out any transforms. (This was added m= ore recently) Say you have a 100x100 solid (layer1) Duplicate it. Parent to the original. T= hen offset it a few pixels. Duplicate that layer and option parent layer3 to= layer2. It will then have the same offest to layer2 as layer2 has to layer1= . Rinse and repeat and you have a quick way to create a pattern of layers. T= his take in to account all xforms Now if you shift parent layer3 to layer2 instead of option it will wind up l= ooking exactly like layer 2 with no offest. Xforms will be zeroed out > On May 22, 2014, at 5:38 PM, "Brian Maffitt" wro= te: >=20 > Interesting. Only Option on the Mac I think. >=20 >> Brian, on PC at least, either Shift or Alt works the same, apparantly >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Brian Maffitt = wrote: >>> It=E2=80=99s the option/alt key, actually. And one reason this is better= than just copying/pasting position is that it will also inherit rotation, s= cale, etc. Especially if the child layer is off-screen because of a 3D move.= >>>=20 >>> Brian >>>=20 >>>> Why can't you just copy the position of your source layer and paste it i= nto your target layer's position? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:00 PM, rendernyc w= rote: >>>>> hold down shift key while you parent with the pick whip or dropdown >>>>>=20 >>>>> layer snaps to the parent=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Teddy Gage = wrote: >>>>>> where is that command? >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Rendernyc = wrote: >>>>>>> Shift parent will snap a layer to the targeted parent later=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 3:10 PM, "Teddy Gage" = wrote: >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> This is something that still slows me down. Say for example I h= ave a long fly-through and need to build out a new section. To create a new l= ayer in the zone of 3D space I'm in, I usually duplicate another layer close= by and then drag it to the desired position. Then I'll alt-drag the new ass= et to the duplicated layer, so that it is replaced with the new footage. Th= e nice thing is that the layer comes in with all proper switches and effects= . But there are lots of problems with this method, like if it's a shape laye= r (with no source) or has different dimensions. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> So instead, I have recently been setting this up with Sure Target 2= rigs. I'll duplicate the most recent target null (used as the camera focal p= oint) and then copy the anchor point position and orientation from the null t= o the new layer. But I still have to select the layer, type P then Shift-R t= o get position and orientation, copy the keys and paste to new layer. >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> Is there a faster way to do this I'm not thinking of? by parenting /= unparenting -> zeroing transforms like in C4D? >>>>>>>> -T >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>> --=20 >>>>>>>> _____________________________ >>>>>>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>>>>>> teddygage dot com >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> --=20 >>>>>> _____________________________ >>>>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>>>> teddygage dot com >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> --=20 >>>>> danny princz >>>>>=20 >>>>> vimeo.com/rendernyc >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com >=20 --Apple-Mail-FDCCAE61-FF96-4AB6-B498-39EB8DC90978 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is a difference but option and s= hift. 

Option parenting will take in to accoun= t and initial transforms and parent with that offest. Shift parenting zeroes= out any transforms. (This was added more recently)

Say you have a 100x100 solid (layer1) Duplicate it. Parent to the original.= Then offset it a few pixels. Duplicate that layer and option parent layer3 t= o layer2. It will then have the same offest to layer2 as layer2 has to layer= 1. Rinse and repeat and you have a quick way to create a pattern of layers. T= his take in to account all xforms


No= w if you shift parent layer3 to layer2 instead of option it will wind up loo= king exactly like layer 2 with no offest.  Xforms will be zeroed out

On May 22, 2014, at 5:38 PM, "Brian Maffitt" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Interesting. Only Option on the M= ac I think.

Brian, on PC at least, either Shift or Alt works the s= ame, apparantly


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Brian Maffitt <= AE-List@media-m= otion.tv> wrote:
It=E2= =80=99s the option/alt key, actually. And one reason this is better than jus= t copying/pasting position is that it will also inherit rotation, scale, etc= . Especially if the child layer is off-screen because of a 3D move.

Brian

Why can't you just copy the position of your s= ource layer and paste it into your target layer's position?


On Thu, May 22= , 2014 at 1:00 PM, rendernyc <AE-List@media-motion.tv> w= rote:
hold down shift key while you= parent with the pick whip or dropdown

layer snaps to the= parent 


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Ted= dy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
where is that command?
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On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Rendernyc <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Shift parent will snap a= layer to the targeted parent later 
    This is s= omething that still slows me down. Say for example I have a long fly-through= and need to build out a new section. To create a new layer in the zone of 3= D space I'm in, I usually duplicate another layer close by and then drag it t= o the desired position. Then I'll alt-drag the new asset to the duplicated l= ayer, so that it is replaced with the new footage.  The nice thing= is that the layer comes in with all proper switches and effects. But there a= re lots of problems with this method, like if it's a shape layer (with n= o source) or has different dimensions.

So instead, I have recently been setting this up with Sure Ta= rget 2 rigs. I'll duplicate the most recent target null (used as the camera f= ocal point) and then copy the anchor point position and orientation from the= null to the new layer. But I still have to select the layer, type P then Sh= ift-R to get position and orientation, copy the keys and paste to new layer.=

Is there a faster way to do this I'm not thinking of? by= parenting / unparenting -> zeroing transforms like in C4D?
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