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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 10:40:02 -0400
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Subject: Re: [AE] Tracking Iphone/Ipad screen replacement - green or not?
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
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We use small tracking target stickers at each corner of the screen and
mocha takes care of the rest. How experienced are you with mocha? Even the
most difficult tracks can be accomplished manually but there are a lot of
ways to do it you may not know about. There are some great advanced tuts
online even pros could learn from.

We never use green because as you said it blocks reflections, but more
importantly you can get green spill on the actors that is harder to manage.
On Jun 2, 2014 10:28 AM, "Roei Tzoref" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

> Hey y'all
>
> I recently tracked different kind of Iphone and Ipads screen replacements
> with different methods, and cant be sure whats the optimal way of
> preparing the shoot.
>
> my question is:
> *do you use green on iphone and ipads where **good reflections are needed
> to sell the shot?*
>
> my considerations are:
> on one hand:
> with green sticker -> better track and maybe easier roto, but you do have
> to remove it
> and no reflections.
>
> on the other hand:
> without green sticker -> more rotoscoping, sometimes difficult track, but
> good reflections.
>
> the way I decided doing it was with no green because mocha can track just
> with
> the shapes and proportions and the green I get usually its just a pain to
> remove
> and although helps me with the track, I do have to remove it and replace
> it. and
> usually it doesn't help me with keying it because the shot is lit for the
> main action
> and not the green inside. the problem is I got a shot with bright sun
> behind
> and the track was very hard. a green would have at least help with the
> shear shift.
>
> what do you recommend as the best course of action for iphones and ipads
> and GUI screens in general (where you need the reflections)?
>
> thanks
>
>

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<p dir=3D"ltr">We use small tracking target stickers at each corner of the =
screen and mocha takes care of the rest. How experienced are you with mocha=
? Even the most difficult tracks can be accomplished manually but there are=
 a lot of ways to do it you may not know about. There are some great advanc=
ed tuts online even pros could learn from. </p>

<p dir=3D"ltr">We never use green because as you said it blocks reflections=
, but more importantly you can get green spill on the actors that is harder=
 to manage. </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jun 2, 2014 10:28 AM, &quot;Roei Tzoref&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv">AE-List@media-motion.tv</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hey y&#39;all<div><br><div>I recently tracked different ki=
nd of Iphone and Ipads screen replacements</div><div>with different methods=
, and cant be sure whats the optimal way of preparing the shoot.</div><div>

<br></div><div>my question is:</div><div><b>do you use green on iphone and =
ipads where=C2=A0</b><b>good reflections are needed to sell the shot?</b></=
div><div><br></div><div>my considerations are:</div><div>on one hand:</div>
<div>
with green sticker -&gt; better track and maybe easier roto, but you do hav=
e to remove it</div><div>and no reflections.</div><div><br></div><div>on th=
e other hand:</div><div>without green sticker -&gt; more rotoscoping, somet=
imes difficult track, but good reflections.<br>

</div><div><br></div><div>the way I decided doing it was with no green beca=
use mocha can track just with</div><div>the shapes and proportions and the =
green I get usually its just a pain to remove</div><div>and although helps =
me with the track, I do have to remove it and replace it. and</div>

<div>usually it doesn&#39;t help me with keying it because the shot is lit =
for the main action</div><div>and not the green inside. the problem is I go=
t a shot with bright sun behind</div><div>and the track was very hard. a gr=
een would have at least help with the shear shift.</div>

<div><br></div><div>what do you recommend as the best course of action for =
iphones and ipads</div><div>and GUI screens in general (where you need the =
reflections)?</div><div><br></div><div>thanks</div><div><br></div></div>

</div>
</blockquote></div>

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