From: "Roei Tzoref" Received: from mail-qg0-f47.google.com ([209.85.192.47] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5491670 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:31:36 +0200 Received: by mail-qg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id j107so10830869qga.20 for ; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=oXJqyi7kvN3rNAm6WbvfOQHCN+U5b7HJOfC/c3JZ5Sw=; b=NuZlomiMoPhRBbHmDk1SqUac9wIRGhS9h6O3+GOD8yR9+z/9qpfIzKCZglv5XK5PiU qssp9BaQkTt/8m0pLL8b+jAHqfRVgBNJLASFGSaKJNSTmgGXQA817EoaLL1tV5NsCCCj PG2UTWoowbSi8/x2H/PHfB8SfQk/9qGgnB+i/bWhl0qWo4kKLlkh4bsF2yszsHGynOhB UcZsxdFwEQueB+THRvmfp7ZqNmX3RsCu3Zqe49VnwCr45Uw5zWlr6g7rLiMy2iAzueh6 rhYTqH2MpUByP3MVW9JZav2935WYfbLqtL+RY7t1wGe/OiJN9IWB5Ix1DYjXRn3GytTv QPPA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.93.2 with SMTP id c2mr46882193qge.53.1401723095430; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.42.198 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 18:31:35 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Tracking Iphone/Ipad screen replacement - green or not? To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a5f1e2d3ae904fadc17b6 --001a113a5f1e2d3ae904fadc17b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 thanks Greg I would look into that. that seals the deal on the real reflections though. when I mentioned key of course its just for the hands not the screen itself to create a hole - that would be a bad idea. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Greg Balint wrote: > I've used apps in the past made specifically for this. > > I'm not on an apple device anymore, but the android play store has an app > called "motion tracking markers" that gives you tracking points all around > the screen and allows you to shift the background color if you need a > specific spill color on exterior objects. > > I'm pretty sure there are apps similar to this for apple devices. > > As for the content on the screen, I normally just make a precomp the size > of the phone's screen and then composite that on top of what was already > there. Not key and place underneath. > > Reflections or glare I add back in as compositing/fx pass. > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > On Jun 2, 2014 10:28 AM, "Roei Tzoref" wrote: > >> Hey y'all >> >> I recently tracked different kind of Iphone and Ipads screen replacements >> with different methods, and cant be sure whats the optimal way of >> preparing the shoot. >> >> my question is: >> *do you use green on iphone and ipads where **good reflections are >> needed to sell the shot?* >> >> my considerations are: >> on one hand: >> with green sticker -> better track and maybe easier roto, but you do >> have to remove it >> and no reflections. >> >> on the other hand: >> without green sticker -> more rotoscoping, sometimes difficult track, but >> good reflections. >> >> the way I decided doing it was with no green because mocha can track just >> with >> the shapes and proportions and the green I get usually its just a pain to >> remove >> and although helps me with the track, I do have to remove it and replace >> it. and >> usually it doesn't help me with keying it because the shot is lit for the >> main action >> and not the green inside. the problem is I got a shot with bright sun >> behind >> and the track was very hard. a green would have at least help with the >> shear shift. >> >> what do you recommend as the best course of action for iphones and ipads >> and GUI screens in general (where you need the reflections)? >> >> thanks >> >> --001a113a5f1e2d3ae904fadc17b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks Greg I would look into that. that seals the deal on= the real reflections though.
when I mentioned key of course its just f= or the hands not the screen itself to create a hole - that would be a bad i= dea.


On Mon,= Jun 2, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Greg Balint <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= ; wrote:

I've used apps in the pas= t made specifically for this.

I'm not on an apple device anymore, but the android play= store has an app called "motion tracking markers" that gives you= tracking points all around the screen and allows you to shift the backgrou= nd color if you need a specific spill color on exterior objects.

I'm pretty sure there are apps similar to this for apple= devices.

As for the content on the screen, I normally just make a pre= comp the size of the phone's screen and then composite that on top of w= hat was already there. Not key and place underneath.

Reflections or glare I add back in as compositing/fx pass. <= /p>

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.= 514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

On Jun 2, 2014 10:28 AM, "Roei Tzoref"= <AE-List@m= edia-motion.tv> wrote:
Hey y'all

I recently tracked different ki= nd of Iphone and Ipads screen replacements
with different methods= , and cant be sure whats the optimal way of preparing the shoot.

my question is:
do you use green on iphone and = ipads where=C2=A0good reflections are needed to sell the shot?

my considerations are:
on one hand:
with green sticker -> better track and maybe easier roto, but you do hav= e to remove it
and no reflections.

on th= e other hand:
without green sticker -> more rotoscoping, somet= imes difficult track, but good reflections.

the way I decided doing it was with no green beca= use mocha can track just with
the shapes and proportions and the = green I get usually its just a pain to remove
and although helps = me with the track, I do have to remove it and replace it. and
usually it doesn't help me with keying it because the shot is lit = for the main action
and not the green inside. the problem is I go= t a shot with bright sun behind
and the track was very hard. a gr= een would have at least help with the shear shift.

what do you recommend as the best course of action for = iphones and ipads
and GUI screens in general (where you need the = reflections)?

thanks


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