From: "Roei Tzoref" Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com ([209.85.216.44] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5494711 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 18:20:39 +0200 Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j7so4201873qaq.3 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:20:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=S+xA/zA+wR8I2uu/FsZhhU8rfxs6hYQH0dkyGqwZLfM=; b=w49t2tI52X5F6RYYmsHnE/PFWRLZL4w1pZwP62ti/uj9T6AXREJRuxVGNCjqssLb2M iFyE4wEtJiEQTyETmaHQOjKJy10PuTeNXS9bC712GijBjke2HzR/DZq1Qs+GGNWfVFnK GoYeW/MKWZ4XeiiskGLAKZVwSbdEfklUWoNUz+uz/8s9p4aVkPjiyQJFqy+hvS4p0Xjq om/x/hiRYAXzbqd0wQrbjgmMznXN0ihh8r5iRWO8trzSeCLqxw7xIw5XAWcjUp+uWEG6 mcO7i4kmX6DdaiRpT2Opu7JzVWPUHkNTNnXnUiPBdsefLWdVUmISdjb2D80g8D77bdfj 5FAA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.50.136 with SMTP id z8mr10430123qaf.66.1402071638421; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.42.198 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 09:20:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 19:20:38 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Layered Graphics Smart Import - Feature request idea To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7beb9fd8f5374204fb2d3d03 --047d7beb9fd8f5374204fb2d3d03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 thanks for letting me know about the script. about the breakdown - this year I started teaching AE in design school. learned so much by teaching since I wanted to be prepared for every contingency. basically did a breakdown for all the Ai/Psd -> Ae Workflows and Scenarios. if I didn't, than one student would say "hey!, it doesn't work!, its broken! theres a bug in my software" etc. etc, and I get nervous trying to figure out what the hell happened. also you learn a lot from all the students ways of getting lost, I learned about how to stay on the right path in many situations. if you liked that , you will be amazed about the breakdown I did for collapse transformations ;) On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Jayse Hansen wrote: > Ah yeah - the script I use (rd_compsetter) changes the frame rate for all > nested as well in case that helps. > > Seems like it'd be an easy addition to the import dialog box. > > Really interesting breakdown you gave on how the double dialog box works - > never figured that out. I think I always just skipped the first one. > > > > -------------------------------- > Jayse Hansen > www.jayse.tv > jayse@jayse.tv > 702-321-3449 > > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Roei Tzoref > wrote: > >> thanks Jayse. I am aware scripts for duration, but still there's the >> frame rate problem (and for every precomp). >> so for now you just have to pay close attention on import to see if you >> have enough duration and on current frame rate. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Jayse Hansen >> wrote: >> >>> You are right! >>> >>> I hate that too. >>> >>> There's some ae scripts that can fix it and the nested precomps plus >>> layers etc. without too much hassle - but still - you shouldn't have to. >>> >>> Good request! >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------- >>> Jayse Hansen >>> www.jayse.tv >>> jayse@jayse.tv >>> 702-321-3449 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Roei Tzoref >>> wrote: >>> >>>> hey guys, >>>> >>>> I have been thinking about it for some time now and before I send a >>>> formal feature request >>>> I wanted to pass this through you to check if I was missing something >>>> here. >>>> >>>> does it seem to you also that AE's import dialog box on a layered >>>> Photoshop/illustrator >>>> should contain a field in which you could specify the duration and >>>> frame rate >>>> for a layered Psd or Ai file *before* AE actually made a composition? >>>> >>>> AE gives you the last duration and frame rate used which is in my >>>> opinion >>>> a high potential for a lot of trouble if you're not careful. >>>> >>>> too often I get fooled by that one. and of course the problem depends >>>> on how many pre-comps are there, but the frame rate can also fool you >>>> if you change them occasionally. >>>> >>>> If I was aware before hand, what I do is create a blank composition, >>>> with >>>> the proper duration and frame rate - and then I import the file. but >>>> too often >>>> I've already started and now I see got tons of pre-comps to extend. >>>> (I can also re import after making blank composition but its cumbersome) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> what do you guys think? >>>> >>>> am I right or am I right? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > --047d7beb9fd8f5374204fb2d3d03 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks for letting me know about the script.

about the breakdown - this year I started teaching AE in design schoo= l. learned so much by teaching since I wanted to be prepared
for every = contingency. basically did a breakdown for all the Ai/Psd -> Ae Workflow= s and Scenarios.=C2=A0
if I didn't, than one student would say "hey!, it doesn't= work!, its broken! theres a bug in my software" etc. etc, and I get n= ervous trying to figure out what the hell happened.
also you lear= n a lot from all the students ways of getting lost, I learned about how to = stay on the right path in many situations.=C2=A0

if you liked that , you will be amazed about the = breakdown I did for collapse transformations ;)


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:10 P= M, Jayse Hansen <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Ah yeah - the script I use = (rd_compsetter) changes the frame rate for all nested as well in case that = helps.=C2=A0

Seems like it'd be an easy addition to the import dialog= box.=C2=A0

Really interesting breakdown you gave on how the double dialog b= ox works - never figured that out. I think I always just skipped the first = one.=C2=A0



----= ----------------------------
Jayse Hansen



On Fri, Jun= 6, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
thanks Jayse. I am aware scripts for duration, but still t= here's the frame rate problem (and for every precomp).
so for now y= ou just have to pay close attention on import to see if you have enough dur= ation and on current frame rate.


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Jayse Hansen <AE-List@media-motio= n.tv> wrote:
You are right!

I hate that too.=C2=A0

There's some ae = scripts that can fix it and the nested precomps plus layers etc. without to= o much hassle - but still - you shouldn't have to.=C2=A0

Good request!


=

--------------------------------
Jayse Hansen


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Roei Tzo= ref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
hey guys,

I have been thinking about it for s= ome time now and before I send a formal feature request
I wanted = to pass this through you to check if I was missing something here.

does it seem to you also that AE's import=C2=A0dialog bo= x=C2=A0on a layered Photoshop/illustrator
should contain a field = in which you could specify the duration and frame rate
for a = layered Psd or Ai file=C2=A0before AE actually made a composition?

AE gives you the last duration and frame rate used= which is in my opinion
a high potential for a lot of trouble if = you're not careful.

too often I get fool= ed by that one. and of course the problem depends=C2=A0
on how many pre-comps are there, but the frame rate can also fool you<= /div>
if you change them occasionally.

If I wa= s aware before hand, what I do is create a blank composition, with
the proper duration and frame rate - and then I import the file. but t= oo often
I've already started and now I see got tons of pre-c= omps to extend.=C2=A0
(I can also re import after making blank co= mposition but its cumbersome)



what do you guys think?

am I right or am I right?
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