From: "Roei Tzoref" Received: from mail-qg0-f42.google.com ([209.85.192.42] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5494767 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 19:37:56 +0200 Received: by mail-qg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id q107so5197067qgd.1 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 10:37:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9+Vx8jOD7wNqIF2s1WpwobcKShvAJ4eCGyq+IwHB9eY=; b=Uikdva5SjJClHmXBgXDmLVofjIeYR04oPHz7p0H6XOqp+t1YwEPlVnj4eGn0uwVOBO FvEYR33PzOtkklpUxDNRol1gHSOgWmIW6wRQOvtXET1/034/gpWpSXyDgxi8pYCskrMk qsceCFzSd1zHqNBw2OvYGfVUeT1P/MCntAEn6Ym14CtzU/RgUnJCDxfS7mA2+B6FykVJ fwyB6YLQLDrQjQrQZtj6dKTMyiG2QKaz7GmI3SB1UzpE3A6Pa8tSaWrNQ061m0Wr6sfD MZqdBGYOPQRjNuuL5NN/z+CjBQJGvROV+mqSWJ3xGwBBMT2TABdaW5RxF+OgKVgPeBVa R8jQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.93.2 with SMTP id c2mr10302247qge.53.1402076274768; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 10:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.42.198 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 10:37:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 20:37:54 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Layered Graphics Smart Import - Feature request idea To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a5f1e4e5e2704fb2e5238 --001a113a5f1e4e5e2704fb2e5238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 thanks Teddy. I did a whole lesson about this confusing sunbrust switch and the by products of changing the render order and now I really want to make it in a video tutorial (which would be my first), seems like there's bits and pieces of it on the net but never the whole picture as I see it in one go. so I need to get around to it and you guys of course will be the first to know and critique. these are the resources I know about: - VIDEO: After Effects Render Order Issues by Chris and Trish Meyer - CMG Hidden Gems: Chapter 20 - Collapsing Transformations by Chris and Trish Meyer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar9S1U-ATEU - Render - http://ae.tutsplus.com/tutorials/workflow/the-naked-truth-about-collapse-transformations/?search_index=1 - Understanding The Render Order In After Effects On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > Actually, I would love to see that. > -TG > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Roei Tzoref > wrote: > >> thanks for letting me know about the script. >> >> about the breakdown - this year I started teaching AE in design school. >> learned so much by teaching since I wanted to be prepared >> for every contingency. basically did a breakdown for all the Ai/Psd -> Ae >> Workflows and Scenarios. >> if I didn't, than one student would say "hey!, it doesn't work!, its >> broken! theres a bug in my software" etc. etc, and I get nervous trying to >> figure out what the hell happened. >> also you learn a lot from all the students ways of getting lost, I >> learned about how to stay on the right path in many situations. >> >> if you liked that , you will be amazed about the breakdown I did for >> collapse transformations ;) >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Jayse Hansen >> wrote: >> >>> Ah yeah - the script I use (rd_compsetter) changes the frame rate for >>> all nested as well in case that helps. >>> >>> Seems like it'd be an easy addition to the import dialog box. >>> >>> Really interesting breakdown you gave on how the double dialog box works >>> - never figured that out. I think I always just skipped the first one. >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------- >>> Jayse Hansen >>> www.jayse.tv >>> jayse@jayse.tv >>> 702-321-3449 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Roei Tzoref >>> wrote: >>> >>>> thanks Jayse. I am aware scripts for duration, but still there's the >>>> frame rate problem (and for every precomp). >>>> so for now you just have to pay close attention on import to see if you >>>> have enough duration and on current frame rate. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Jayse Hansen >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You are right! >>>>> >>>>> I hate that too. >>>>> >>>>> There's some ae scripts that can fix it and the nested precomps plus >>>>> layers etc. without too much hassle - but still - you shouldn't have to. >>>>> >>>>> Good request! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------- >>>>> Jayse Hansen >>>>> www.jayse.tv >>>>> jayse@jayse.tv >>>>> 702-321-3449 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Roei Tzoref >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hey guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been thinking about it for some time now and before I send a >>>>>> formal feature request >>>>>> I wanted to pass this through you to check if I was missing something >>>>>> here. >>>>>> >>>>>> does it seem to you also that AE's import dialog box on a layered >>>>>> Photoshop/illustrator >>>>>> should contain a field in which you could specify the duration and >>>>>> frame rate >>>>>> for a layered Psd or Ai file *before* AE actually made a composition? >>>>>> >>>>>> AE gives you the last duration and frame rate used which is in my >>>>>> opinion >>>>>> a high potential for a lot of trouble if you're not careful. >>>>>> >>>>>> too often I get fooled by that one. and of course the problem depends >>>>>> on how many pre-comps are there, but the frame rate can also fool you >>>>>> if you change them occasionally. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I was aware before hand, what I do is create a blank composition, >>>>>> with >>>>>> the proper duration and frame rate - and then I import the file. but >>>>>> too often >>>>>> I've already started and now I see got tons of pre-comps to extend. >>>>>> (I can also re import after making blank composition but its >>>>>> cumbersome) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> what do you guys think? >>>>>> >>>>>> am I right or am I right? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com > --001a113a5f1e4e5e2704fb2e5238 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks Teddy. I did a whole lesson about this confusing su= nbrust switch and the by products of changing the render order
and now = I really want to make it in a video tutorial (which would be my first), seems like there's bits and pieces of it on the net but never the whole= picture as I see it in one go.
so I need to get around to it and= you guys of course will be the first to know and critique.

these are the resources I know about:





On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at = 8:11 PM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Actually, I would love to s= ee that.
-TG


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Roei Tzoref= <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
thanks for letting me know = about the script.

about the breakdown - this year I star= ted teaching AE in design school. learned so much by teaching since I wante= d to be prepared
for every contingency. basically did a breakdown for all the Ai/Psd -> A= e Workflows and Scenarios.=C2=A0
if I didn't, than one student would say "hey!, it doesn't= work!, its broken! theres a bug in my software" etc. etc, and I get n= ervous trying to figure out what the hell happened.
also you lear= n a lot from all the students ways of getting lost, I learned about how to = stay on the right path in many situations.=C2=A0

if you liked that , you will be amazed about the = breakdown I did for collapse transformations ;)


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Jayse Hansen <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:
Ah yeah - the script I use = (rd_compsetter) changes the frame rate for all nested as well in case that = helps.=C2=A0

Seems like it'd be an easy addition to the import dialog= box.=C2=A0

Really interesting breakdown you gave on how the double dialog b= ox works - never figured that out. I think I always just skipped the first = one.=C2=A0



----= ----------------------------
Jayse Hansen



On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9= :04 AM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
thanks Jayse. I am aware scripts for duration, but still t= here's the frame rate problem (and for every precomp).
so for now y= ou just have to pay close attention on import to see if you have enough dur= ation and on current frame rate.


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Jayse Hansen <AE-List@media-motio= n.tv> wrote:
You are right!

I hate that too.=C2=A0

There's some ae = scripts that can fix it and the nested precomps plus layers etc. without to= o much hassle - but still - you shouldn't have to.=C2=A0

Good request!


=

--------------------------------
Jayse Hansen


On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Roei Tzo= ref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
hey guys,

I have been thinking about it for s= ome time now and before I send a formal feature request
I wanted = to pass this through you to check if I was missing something here.

does it seem to you also that AE's import=C2=A0dialog bo= x=C2=A0on a layered Photoshop/illustrator
should contain a field = in which you could specify the duration and frame rate
for a = layered Psd or Ai file=C2=A0before AE actually made a composition?

AE gives you the last duration and frame rate used= which is in my opinion
a high potential for a lot of trouble if = you're not careful.

too often I get fool= ed by that one. and of course the problem depends=C2=A0
on how many pre-comps are there, but the frame rate can also fool you<= /div>
if you change them occasionally.

If I wa= s aware before hand, what I do is create a blank composition, with
the proper duration and frame rate - and then I import the file. but t= oo often
I've already started and now I see got tons of pre-c= omps to extend.=C2=A0
(I can also re import after making blank co= mposition but its cumbersome)



what do you guys think?

am I right or am I right?
=C2=A0







<= /div>--
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