From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com ([209.85.213.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5496712 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 16:43:08 +0200 Received: by mail-ig0-f176.google.com with SMTP id a13so1878239igq.15 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 07:43:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=O4NmKLIVGlEp+G6LahgvH30l4tjGvNYh1iY1hqCOgTk=; b=ucRPvK5+fYTcNIkW8RreGWrgwGpmuHC1rl5FhF4pyPu1hkUAioJKZhSwot+WogjQaX w4kkqnFv/r9V0ZcM3xRn1iQN74yfcC0sYrdJJZLPdOlRs1cxpjmVucjOpy222uGyBB9I 8mM5/OOH80JIrkQMChzamS8iOADDab5Wwv0R6Knmgv5GJF3MScBdy7sGZoaJcqFIDhJb X7olvIJQ/oWtTIWB+BHJONNXsBGiBQhmDOUznDzPx0CM1qdr0K3/43SN4AbPJqnSJK3M bgnjezgHS1wBZ/5CE3PoodK5W60++pAiTvSmYO7H1tskHCuaPFBAOQ2RCODgNrGLlPvI wIgA== X-Received: by 10.50.20.8 with SMTP id j8mr19561327ige.17.1402152186622; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 07:43:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.253.196 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 07:42:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 10:42:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd75266013aaa04fb3fff69 --047d7bd75266013aaa04fb3fff69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hey, Thanks for all this. Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time with that copy paste! Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that. That of course resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 (literally while I render it directly, I see it). Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with the copy paste. Eric On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref wrote: > ok > > you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render hits > which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk space. > > you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-pasting your > sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it. > either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using > file->import->adobe premiere project > > the difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is the > actual editing with tails to each footage > so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see the > shots as you put them. > > on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not make this > transition smoothly > and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small > compromise. > > after you do all the effects you can render out a full quality sequence > through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software where you can compile > the final sound mix. > > if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a low res copy for a > sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and after I get from the > guy the final mix I put it back in > AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and render it > to whatever purpose. > > but that still did not help you with your issue which is you keep getting > 1920x1080 instead of 1440. > I am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in AE or > AME. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk > wrote: > >> Roei, >> >> My workflow could be that I just don't know any better. :) However, what >> I generally have been doing is I take my raw footage in to Premiere first, >> especially if it's very long and I only want a piece. So, it's easier to >> review, find what i want then I extract that. So, by extract, I clip out >> that piece, render out of Premiere, then import in to AE, add effects, etc. >> >> If you are referring to the dynamic link thing, I've tried that a time or >> two and it is SOOOO slow, it's ineffective to me. If there is another way >> to send from Premiere to AE, I'm all ears OR if you have another suggestion >> on workflow, I appreciate it. >> >> Then after in AE, I render out my finished piece and take it back to >> Premiere where I render out my mp4 with sounds, etc. I can copy the preset >> but I just selected one of my existing ones (1920x1080) and then change the >> settings of that preset for the one render to 1920x1440. >> >> THanks, >> Eric >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Roei Tzoref >> wrote: >> >>> is there a reason for your workflow Premiere->Encode-->AE >>> instead of Premiere->Ae>Encode? >>> >>> I guess your media encoding setting are set to output 1920x1080 >>> view in the export setting in media encoder and compare Source vs Output >>> >>> you could send me the preset via alt clicking on the save button near >>> the preset button >>> and save it in your computer and send it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey All, >>>> >>>> I've been having a great time with this new drone I have, the DJI >>>> Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. I found right away that using the >>>> 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot because it gives you room to remove the >>>> propellers when they show. >>>> >>>> My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere project which is >>>> set properly at 1920x1440. Then I look through it to see what I want to >>>> use and render that piece out to work in AE. >>>> >>>> I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 and every >>>> single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. Somehow I got it >>>> right once but it's not working anymore. >>>> >>>> I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link thing) >>>> so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where I see >>>> the settings show correctly. >>>> >>>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>> >>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> * >>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >> >> *www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> * >> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> * >> >> > > -- *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347* *www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com * *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --047d7bd75266013aaa04fb3fff69 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,

Thanks for all this. =C2=A0Well, y= ou just saved me a ton of f"ing! time with that copy paste! =C2=A0Son = of a gun, I never knew you could do that. =C2=A0That of course resolves the= short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still wonder why, even with= the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 (literally while I rende= r it directly, I see it).

Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with t= he copy paste.

Eric


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM,= Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
ok=C2=A0
you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking rend= er hits which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk= space.

you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-= pasting your sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it.
either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using file= ->import->adobe premiere project

the differe= nce between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is the actual edit= ing with tails to each footage=C2=A0
so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see t= he shots as you put them.

on the downside -> di= ssolves and other premiere effects may not make this transition smoothly
and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small co= mpromise.

after you do all the effects you can ren= der out a full quality sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing= software where you can compile the final sound mix.

if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a = low res copy for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and af= ter I get from the guy the final mix I put it back in=C2=A0
AE or= Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and render it to wha= tever purpose.

but that still did not help you with your issue which i= s you keep getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440.=C2=A0
I am now not = sure if that's a result of improper render settings in AE or AME.=C2=A0=





=



On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = <AE-List@me= dia-motion.tv> wrote:
Roei,

My workflow could be that I just don't know any better. :) =C2=A0How= ever, what I generally have been doing is I take my raw footage in to Premi= ere first, especially if it's very long and I only want a piece. =C2=A0= So, it's easier to review, find what i want then I extract that. =C2=A0= So, by extract, I clip out that piece, render out of Premiere, then import = in to AE, add effects, etc.

If = you are referring to the dynamic link thing, I've tried that a time or = two and it is SOOOO slow, it's ineffective to me. =C2=A0If there is ano= ther way to send from Premiere to AE, I'm all ears OR if you have anoth= er suggestion on workflow, I appreciate it.

The= n after in AE, I render out my finished piece and take it back to Premiere = where I render out my mp4 with sounds, etc. =C2=A0I can copy the preset but= I just selected one of my existing ones (1920x1080) and then change the se= ttings of that preset for the one render to 1920x1440.

THa= nks,
Eric



=
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Roei Tzoref = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
is there a reason for your = workflow Premiere->Encode-->AE=C2=A0
instead of Premiere->Ae&g= t;Encode?

I guess your media encoding setting are set to output 1= 920x1080
view in the export setting in media encoder and compare = Source vs Output

you could send me the preset via alt clicking on the sa= ve button near the preset button
and save it in your computer and= send it.




On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric= D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hey All,

I've been having a great t= ime with this new drone I have, the DJI Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. =C2= =A0I found right away that using the 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot bec= ause it gives you room to remove the propellers when they show.

My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere pr= oject which is set properly at 1920x1440. =C2=A0Then I look through it to s= ee what I want to use and render that piece out to work in AE.
I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 = and every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. =C2=A0Someh= ow I got it right once but it's not working anymore.

I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link thing= ) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where I see= the settings show correctly.

Any ideas on what I&= #39;m doing wrong?

Thanks,
Eric

--
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
=C2=A0




--
Eric D. Kirk |= =C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
=C2=A0




--
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
H= idden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VF= X
443.206.1347
=C2=A0
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