From: "Steve Oakley" Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5496776 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 19:55:28 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.8] (cpe-174-103-227-20.new.res.rr.com [174.103.227.20]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M0hPy-1WeZAg49qo-00ukIK; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:55:26 -0400 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ACDF47DA-313C-4530-9BC0-ADFF5914A414" Message-Id: <758D828A-22F5-440D-83D1-E228FC990EFC@practicalillusions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 12:55:23 -0500 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:o7bAA34TMqErdI3J0ALvYMIf6Z1mrrERH3mhTWq9NjC qtPtUTdzwEn6dUhBoBvbXufk9Q9KSYIeRpgMGIyP8pumZDFnLD OvFt6eWR5MzHG2GaMuVxzJy6vqG6BjILp8umQCPR5vNytru0av eCa3tZDqsk81fcn6+wMsokLpPzVOKM1KxPYrAHCR3YWKJIzrr5 Nert+pYz4JDshnaymhHyRo92fKtP0LpAJrN3oEK6YYdfFkA53o 2+T0BwINNctrUwhPDpILhc8hyJsud/6xiMPhNK2B1JxUwQW9Fx q0akcEqgGhBHLziHqBNxRkqZUcek53jGRx+PFM3qVE8U0EN9mk KXZll5WYUMqv1oB9pl+iI2MTgmCdGM2dah4r3AOT6zapY+G3ve b8jRyrJ6z5r1VtDZ/1FF67L/krxmOiU3mw= --Apple-Mail=_ACDF47DA-313C-4530-9BC0-ADFF5914A414 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe h264 like AVCintra 200 but why = bother when you could edit native. gopro is limited to 8bits so whatever = works. S On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk = wrote: > Steve, >=20 > You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing. = What alternative do you recommend? >=20 > Eric > Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions > Hidden in the Woods | VFX > The Night Visitor | VFX > 443.206.1347 > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve Oakley = wrote: > what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res = only and will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into = a 1920X1080 >=20 > otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do what you want w/o = any hassle >=20 > S >=20 > On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = wrote: >=20 >> Hey, >>=20 >> Thanks for all this. Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time = with that copy paste! Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that. = That of course resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although = I still wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering = 1920x1440 (literally while I render it directly, I see it). >>=20 >> Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with the copy paste. >>=20 >> Eric >>=20 >>=20 >> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref = wrote: >> ok=20 >>=20 >> you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render = hits which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk = space. >>=20 >> you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-pasting your = sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it. >> either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using = file->import->adobe premiere project >>=20 >> the difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is = the actual editing with tails to each footage=20 >> so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see = the shots as you put them. >>=20 >> on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not make = this transition smoothly >> and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small = compromise. >>=20 >> after you do all the effects you can render out a full quality = sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software where you = can compile the final sound mix. >>=20 >> if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a low res copy = for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and after I get = from the guy the final mix I put it back in=20 >> AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and = render it to whatever purpose. >>=20 >> but that still did not help you with your issue which is you keep = getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440.=20 >> I am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in = AE or AME.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = wrote: >> Hey All, >>=20 >> I've been having a great time with this new drone I have, the DJI = Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. I found right away that using the = 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot because it gives you room to remove = the propellers when they show. >>=20 >> My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere project which is = set properly at 1920x1440. Then I look through it to see what I want to = use and render that piece out to work in AE. >>=20 >> I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 and every = single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. Somehow I got it = right once but it's not working anymore. >>=20 >> I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link = thing) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render = where I see the settings show correctly. >>=20 >> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Eric >>=20 >> --=20 >> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >> The Night Visitor | VFX >> 443.206.1347 >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >> The Night Visitor | VFX >> 443.206.1347 >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >> The Night Visitor | VFX >> 443.206.1347 >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> =20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_ACDF47DA-313C-4530-9BC0-ADFF5914A414 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe h264 like AVCintra 200  but why  bother when you could edit native. gopro is limited to 8bits so whatever works.

S

On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Steve,

You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing. What alternative do you recommend?

Eric
Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.206.1347
www.kirkproductions.com
kirkproductions@gmail.com
IMDB:  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

 




On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res only and will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into a 1920X1080

otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do what you want w/o any hassle

S

On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hey,

Thanks for all this.  Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time with that copy paste!  Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that.  That of course resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 (literally while I render it directly, I see it).

Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with the copy paste.

Eric


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
ok 

you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render hits which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk space.

you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-pasting your sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it.
either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using file->import->adobe premiere project

the difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is the actual editing with tails to each footage 
so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see the shots as you put them.

on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not make this transition smoothly
and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small compromise.

after you do all the effects you can render out a full quality sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software where you can compile the final sound mix.

if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a low res copy for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and after I get from the guy the final mix I put it back in 
AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and render it to whatever purpose.

but that still did not help you with your issue which is you keep getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440. 
I am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in AE or AME. 





On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hey All,

I've been having a great time with this new drone I have, the DJI Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera.  I found right away that using the 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot because it gives you room to remove the propellers when they show.

My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere project which is set properly at 1920x1440.  Then I look through it to see what I want to use and render that piece out to work in AE.

I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 and every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080.  Somehow I got it right once but it's not working anymore.

I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link thing) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where I see the settings show correctly.

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,
Eric

--
Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
 




--
Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
 




--
Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.206.1347
 


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