From: "Teddy Gage" Received: from mail-yh0-f52.google.com ([209.85.213.52] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5496813 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 22:18:09 +0200 Received: by mail-yh0-f52.google.com with SMTP id z6so1522304yhz.39 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:18:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=wNWWLyQ/vFZohsCUhPOmpMt8TWVjsHlSf7nVeFK9w34=; b=qkMLuR8Fk6tpIHr++zbjekRe2gCkHDbXEAT9eX3yJ+qC+SdBgUTqNMdTpNl0ModR+I c+rbaRA9AsjS4RVQdu/YMFVlsT9jz7X8zKggKjRsB7cfBbu9ZIjpkJd6Bx1zEkY48ymo nYIqgxM+bZHifFWfE4rE8TX0m51jGUtGqG5p/iW66DZM2cc1Kv8kX9TAq6YwGGDD0UAo Y1taqe+CAI3u0yLvQ1aJHh9Xf6xHLKqdxDtZDRHI+oVQY8OYMbe7Ooiw+cGhHisOKe8u EkQgBYJeHN4L52sXmyP5jrx7toEGotySION4bJuiDYu1DZ8WLo0aCmwqC6hEeQhqz891 kMPA== X-Received: by 10.236.1.36 with SMTP id 24mr1361124yhc.45.1402172287437; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 13:18:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.170.76.134 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 13:17:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 16:17:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133db941b518304fb44adab --001a1133db941b518304fb44adab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 well considering I've seen ones for thousands of dollars, that's pretty reasonable, and it's good you're not tied to any specific camera hardware. You can always upgrade. I was thinking of getting one of those parrot AR drones just for kicks anyway... http://ardrone2.parrot.com/ On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Eric D. Kirk wrote: > Teddy, > > Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. Pretty > steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it. > > That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that. > > > Eric > Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions > Hidden in the Woods | VFX > The Night Visitor | VFX > 443.206.1347 > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > > > > > > > On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy Gage > wrote: >> >> holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really clean. Mind me asking >> what the DJI rig set you back? >> -TG >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk > > wrote: >> >>> Here's some footage i took. >>> >>> Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo >>> On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley" wrote: >>> >>>> ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe h264 like AVCintra 200 but why >>>> bother when you could edit native. gopro is limited to 8bits so whatever >>>> works. >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Steve, >>>> >>>> You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing. >>>> What alternative do you recommend? >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>>> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >>>> The Night Visitor | VFX >>>> 443.206.1347 >>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve Oakley >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res >>>>> only and will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into a >>>>> 1920X1080 >>>>> >>>>> otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do what you want w/o >>>>> any hassle >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for all this. Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time >>>>> with that copy paste! Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that. That >>>>> of course resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still >>>>> wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 >>>>> (literally while I render it directly, I see it). >>>>> >>>>> Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with the copy paste. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ok >>>>>> >>>>>> you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render >>>>>> hits which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk >>>>>> space. >>>>>> >>>>>> you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-pasting your >>>>>> sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it. >>>>>> either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using >>>>>> file->import->adobe premiere project >>>>>> >>>>>> the difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is >>>>>> the actual editing with tails to each footage >>>>>> so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see >>>>>> the shots as you put them. >>>>>> >>>>>> on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not make >>>>>> this transition smoothly >>>>>> and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small >>>>>> compromise. >>>>>> >>>>>> after you do all the effects you can render out a full quality >>>>>> sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software where you can >>>>>> compile the final sound mix. >>>>>> >>>>>> if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a low res copy >>>>>> for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and after I get >>>>>> from the guy the final mix I put it back in >>>>>> AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and >>>>>> render it to whatever purpose. >>>>>> >>>>>> but that still did not help you with your issue which is you keep >>>>>> getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440. >>>>>> I am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in >>>>>> AE or AME. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >>>>>>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hey All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been having a great time with this new drone I have, the DJI >>>>>>>>> Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. I found right away that using the >>>>>>>>> 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot because it gives you room to remove the >>>>>>>>> propellers when they show. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere project which >>>>>>>>> is set properly at 1920x1440. Then I look through it to see what I want to >>>>>>>>> use and render that piece out to work in AE. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 and >>>>>>>>> every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. Somehow I got >>>>>>>>> it right once but it's not working anymore. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link >>>>>>>>> thing) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where >>>>>>>>> I see the settings show correctly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>>>>>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>>>>>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>>>>>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>>>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>>>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>>>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>>> >>>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>> * >>>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com >> > -- _____________________________ VFX & Motion Graphic Artist teddygage dot com --001a1133db941b518304fb44adab Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
well considering I've seen ones for thousands of dolla= rs, that's pretty reasonable, and it's good you're not tied to = any specific camera hardware. You can always upgrade.=C2=A0

<= div> I was thinking of getting one of those parrot AR drones just for kicks anyw= ay...=C2=A0http://ardrone2.parrot.c= om/


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:
Teddy,

Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. Prett= y steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it.

That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that.
<= br>
Eric
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.2= 06.1347
www.kirkproduc= tions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
IMDB:=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

=C2=A0




On June 7, = 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really clean.= Mind me asking what the DJI rig set you back?=C2=A0
-TG


On Sat, Jun 7, 2= 014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Here's some footage i too= k.

Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo

On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley"= <AE-List@m= edia-motion.tv> wrote:
ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe= h264 like AVCintra 200 =C2=A0but why =C2=A0bother when you could edit nati= ve. gopro is limited to 8bits so whatever works.

S
=

On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> w= rote:

Steve,

You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing.= What alternative do you recommend?

Eric
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.2= 06.1347
www.kirkprodu= ctions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
IMDB:=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

=C2=A0




On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve O= akley <AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv> wrote:
what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res only a= nd will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into a 1920X1= 080

otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do= what you want w/o any hassle

S

On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, M= r. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hey,

Thanks for all this. =C2=A0Well, y= ou just saved me a ton of f"ing! time with that copy paste! =C2=A0Son = of a gun, I never knew you could do that. =C2=A0That of course resolves the= short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still wonder why, even with= the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 (literally while I rende= r it directly, I see it).

Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with t= he copy paste.

Eric


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM,= Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
ok=C2=A0

yo= u should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render hits which = can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk space.

you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-= pasting your sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it.
either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using file= ->import->adobe premiere project

the differe= nce between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is the actual edit= ing with tails to each footage=C2=A0
so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see t= he shots as you put them.

on the downside -> di= ssolves and other premiere effects may not make this transition smoothly
and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small co= mpromise.

after you do all the effects you can ren= der out a full quality sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing= software where you can compile the final sound mix.

if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a = low res copy for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and af= ter I get from the guy the final mix I put it back in=C2=A0
AE or= Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and render it to wha= tever purpose.

but that still did not help you with your issue which i= s you keep getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440.=C2=A0
I am now not = sure if that's a result of improper render settings in AE or AME.=C2=A0=

=




On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric= D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hey All,

I've been having a great t= ime with this new drone I have, the DJI Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. =C2= =A0I found right away that using the 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot bec= ause it gives you room to remove the propellers when they show.

My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere pr= oject which is set properly at 1920x1440. =C2=A0Then I look through it to s= ee what I want to use and render that piece out to work in AE.
I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 = and every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. =C2=A0Someh= ow I got it right once but it's not working anymore.

I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link thing= ) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where I see= the settings show correctly.

Any ideas on what I&= #39;m doing wrong?

Thanks,
Eric
<= br>
--
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0= Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
=C2=A0




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Hidden i= n the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
=C2=A0




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The Night Visitor | VF= X
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