From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-ie0-f179.google.com ([209.85.223.179] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5496850 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 23:37:46 +0200 Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id rd18so3854534iec.38 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 14:37:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/D/lpBN0ctqFXyRj1DyvD29q0XQxKf6/aouvp0LHVmY=; b=HWIKyHNaB2jRp87HFZtx3Og6IY7XO/Rx0/iZ/8wAZm2+G8r6C2cm6xsJkcN9n9q/Ih 8LAbm81W/HKF8rbDxx5TFUIaTSYu6mQls9nxMo54dWmvXJGk55aVUxPeujxsfhAML6df YJIBHK8zkUcnHEvMlZNWDXwdVtHl1WRZ412k6JJ6isBAhuz6xoAN/3lkdSFTZOrJM0sp n3GdQxlsE8XPDEPaY2OxGhrbFB2cmzYFKjGeBAr8eUdSYPmgC6D0nK/EETbJ6FMAPQCe lSIgUR/Jp17YxujCePk3rcG/FVSSrYyloGz+6+Odek/SfWZUd5wVn/8VkSFjEaVqOym0 rPtw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.143.9 with SMTP id sa9mr19219036igb.2.1402177064621; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 14:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.253.196 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 14:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.253.196 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 14:37:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 17:37:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134d102d95c2804fb45c92a --001a1134d102d95c2804fb45c92a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Teddy, I looked at the parrot early on too. Looks like fun! I love getting full HD with the gopro arrangement and ultimately that's what sold me. Eric On Jun 7, 2014 4:18 PM, "Teddy Gage" wrote: > well considering I've seen ones for thousands of dollars, that's pretty > reasonable, and it's good you're not tied to any specific camera hardware. > You can always upgrade. > > I was thinking of getting one of those parrot AR drones just for kicks > anyway... http://ardrone2.parrot.com/ > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Eric D. Kirk > wrote: > >> Teddy, >> >> Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. >> Pretty steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it. >> >> That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that. >> >> >> Eric >> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >> The Night Visitor | VFX >> 443.206.1347 >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy Gage >> wrote: >>> >>> holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really clean. Mind me >>> asking what the DJI rig set you back? >>> -TG >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>> >>>> Here's some footage i took. >>>> >>>> Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo >>>> On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley" wrote: >>>> >>>>> ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe h264 like AVCintra 200 but >>>>> why bother when you could edit native. gopro is limited to 8bits so >>>>> whatever works. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Steve, >>>>> >>>>> You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing. >>>>> What alternative do you recommend? >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>>>> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >>>>> The Night Visitor | VFX >>>>> 443.206.1347 >>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve Oakley >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res >>>>>> only and will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into a >>>>>> 1920X1080 >>>>>> >>>>>> otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do what you want >>>>>> w/o any hassle >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for all this. Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time >>>>>> with that copy paste! Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that. That >>>>>> of course resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still >>>>>> wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 >>>>>> (literally while I render it directly, I see it). >>>>>> >>>>>> Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with the copy paste. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref >>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ok >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render >>>>>>> hits which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk >>>>>>> space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-pasting your >>>>>>> sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it. >>>>>>> either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using >>>>>>> file->import->adobe premiere project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is >>>>>>> the actual editing with tails to each footage >>>>>>> so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see >>>>>>> the shots as you put them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not make >>>>>>> this transition smoothly >>>>>>> and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small >>>>>>> compromise. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> after you do all the effects you can render out a full quality >>>>>>> sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software where you can >>>>>>> compile the final sound mix. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a low res copy >>>>>>> for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and after I get >>>>>>> from the guy the final mix I put it back in >>>>>>> AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and >>>>>>> render it to whatever purpose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but that still did not help you with your issue which is you keep >>>>>>> getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440. >>>>>>> I am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in >>>>>>> AE or AME. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >>>>>>>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey All, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've been having a great time with this new drone I have, the DJI >>>>>>>>>> Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. I found right away that using the >>>>>>>>>> 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot because it gives you room to remove the >>>>>>>>>> propellers when they show. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere project >>>>>>>>>> which is set properly at 1920x1440. Then I look through it to see what I >>>>>>>>>> want to use and render that piece out to work in AE. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 and >>>>>>>>>> every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. Somehow I got >>>>>>>>>> it right once but it's not working anymore. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link >>>>>>>>>> thing) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where >>>>>>>>>> I see the settings show correctly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>>>>>>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>>>>>>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>>>>>>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>>>>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>>>>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>>>>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>>>> >>>>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>> * >>>>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>> * >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________ >>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>> teddygage dot com >>> >> > > > -- > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com > --001a1134d102d95c2804fb45c92a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Teddy,

I looked at the parrot early on too.=C2=A0 Looks like fun!

I love getting full HD with the gopro arrangement and ultima= tely that's what sold me.

Eric

On Jun 7, 2014 4:18 PM, "Teddy Gage" &= lt;AE-List@media-motion.tv&g= t; wrote:
well considering I've seen ones for thousands of dolla= rs, that's pretty reasonable, and it's good you're not tied to = any specific camera hardware. You can always upgrade.=C2=A0

<= div> I was thinking of getting one of those parrot AR drones just for kicks anyw= ay...=C2=A0http:/= /ardrone2.parrot.com/


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:
Teddy,

Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. Prett= y steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it.

That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that.


Eric
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.2= 06.1347
www.kirkproduc= tions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
IMDB:=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

=C2=A0




On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 = PM EDT, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really clean.= Mind me asking what the DJI rig set you back?=C2=A0
-TG


On Sat, Jun 7, 2= 014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Here's some footage i too= k.

Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo

On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley"= <AE-List@m= edia-motion.tv> wrote:
ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe= h264 like AVCintra 200 =C2=A0but why =C2=A0bother when you could edit nati= ve. gopro is limited to 8bits so whatever works.

S
=

On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> w= rote:

Steve,

You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing.= What alternative do you recommend?

Eric
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.2= 06.1347
www.kirkprodu= ctions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
IMDB:=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

=C2=A0




On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve O= akley <AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv> wrote:
what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res only a= nd will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into a 1920X1= 080

otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do= what you want w/o any hassle

S

On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, M= r. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hey,

Thanks for all this. =C2=A0Well, y= ou just saved me a ton of f"ing! time with that copy paste! =C2=A0Son = of a gun, I never knew you could do that. =C2=A0That of course resolves the= short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still wonder why, even with= the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 (literally while I rende= r it directly, I see it).

Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with t= he copy paste.

Eric


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM,= Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
ok=C2=A0

yo= u should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render hits which = can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk space.

you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-= pasting your sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it.
either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using file= ->import->adobe premiere project

the differe= nce between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is the actual edit= ing with tails to each footage=C2=A0
so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see t= he shots as you put them.

on the downside -> di= ssolves and other premiere effects may not make this transition smoothly
and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small co= mpromise.

after you do all the effects you can ren= der out a full quality sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing= software where you can compile the final sound mix.

if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a = low res copy for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and af= ter I get from the guy the final mix I put it back in=C2=A0
AE or= Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and render it to wha= tever purpose.

but that still did not help you with your issue which i= s you keep getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440.=C2=A0
I am now not = sure if that's a result of improper render settings in AE or AME.=C2=A0=

=




On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric= D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hey All,

I've been having a great t= ime with this new drone I have, the DJI Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. =C2= =A0I found right away that using the 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot bec= ause it gives you room to remove the propellers when they show.

My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere pr= oject which is set properly at 1920x1440. =C2=A0Then I look through it to s= ee what I want to use and render that piece out to work in AE.
I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 = and every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. =C2=A0Someh= ow I got it right once but it's not working anymore.

I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link thing= ) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where I see= the settings show correctly.

Any ideas on what I&= #39;m doing wrong?

Thanks,
Eric
<= br>
--
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0= Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
=C2=A0




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Hidden i= n the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
=C2=A0




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H= idden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VF= X
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