From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com ([209.85.213.182] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5498579 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:58:08 +0200 Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id a13so5453062igq.3 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:58:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=3UgXSuqX5S5cZfkoL9THvaRcAT2rPHOyjKcvUoEDdn8=; b=yRTCoHFXd8npfX+oTFPP7TPS54VwqRNokF6twiPBO0hI8/T6Bx5BsO3RBGPprCSgoj bC5gVALk7PeRbgq6x90Bx7nkpY2RcZK/JbrVBycQ0qPFIusIMLCdogpQSTnu9OZRTKaD j6C+dW4E6ELfib0wxy55Mm6Ugh3pgxvAF2klrSUOJJWwFj1C8LqQXQa3wOmLFAThFyPq zNeRlulkI2UMh3VQps9L8BoR0MGpduehTeIyZ6kpnIbZTEFlT0c3NgQGoxbt3uBA13Wf SwGpU3Xaee/wo9S1dEZifEY7XOAQ/MFe7CfKKsEPxcabkzrPj8iYT5oHTUpgELrMQFZp 3dWA== X-Received: by 10.51.17.99 with SMTP id gd3mr46995981igd.2.1402423087023; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:58:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.253.196 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:57:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:57:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11360146ed4a6c04fb7f1126 --001a11360146ed4a6c04fb7f1126 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Teddy, Yes, I can imagine problems in New York or any built up area for that matter. I do use a bit of common sense. For example that light house. I made like 3 trips there before I felt comfortable in shooting just because of excessive people. I also don't flaunt it....sort of start out of the way a bit, don't make a scene (no pun intended lo), launch, go high, come down lower somewhere else. So, I can't imagine, thought I'd want to, lifting off in times square. I live in a small rural area. That said, I don't want to purposely test the law by launching right in front of a trooper or anything. :) So, I keep a low profile - pun intended. ha. But check this guy out. He does tutorials and stuff but geez, he flies over everything you can imagine! Just pluck through the timeline of this video a little and you will see what I mean. Over beaches, people, pools, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tnQLPO-8TY Eric On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Teddy Gage wrote: > I'm pretty sure it's against the law in NYC, period, although probably > fine if I used it in a park and not the middle of the city. But the FAA > doesn't mess around here, for obvious reasons. Now if only I had a project > that justified one. Is the gopro able to stream live from the drone to an > ipad / iphone, or is the distance too far? Basically, is there a live video > preview from the drone or is it line of sight only? > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk > wrote: > >> Hell, I'd never get footage if I needed Faa approval. Lol. Truth is the >> faa is not quite up to speed yet on how they will be handling the increased >> use. Just saw a story this week in fact on news where, because of the >> great desire of film makers they may not restrict drones up to 50 lbs and >> reserve that for larger drones for commercial use. >> >> Eric >> On Jun 9, 2014 4:58 PM, "Gordon" wrote: >> >>> I saw people walking under your drone. Did you have to get any local >>> clearances with FAA? >>> -g >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:47 PM, "Eric D. Kirk" >>> wrote: >>> >>> Teddy, >>> >>> Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. >>> Pretty steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it. >>> >>> That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that. >>> >>> Eric >>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >>> The Night Visitor | VFX >>> 443.206.1347 >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy Gage >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really clean. Mind me >>>> asking what the DJI rig set you back? >>>> -TG >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Here's some footage i took. >>>>> >>>>> Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo >>>>> On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley" >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe h264 like AVCintra 200 but >>>>>> why bother when you could edit native. gopro is limited to 8bits so >>>>>> whatever works. >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve, >>>>>> >>>>>> You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was >>>>>> doing. What alternative do you recommend? >>>>>> >>>>>> Eric >>>>>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>>>>> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >>>>>> The Night Visitor | VFX >>>>>> 443.206.1347 >>>>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve Oakley < >>>>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res >>>>>>> only and will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into a >>>>>>> 1920X1080 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do what you want >>>>>>> w/o any hassle >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >>>>>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for all this. Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time >>>>>>> with that copy paste! Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that. That >>>>>>> of course resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still >>>>>>> wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 >>>>>>> (literally while I render it directly, I see it). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with the copy paste. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref < >>>>>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ok >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render >>>>>>>> hits which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk >>>>>>>> space. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-pasting your >>>>>>>> sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it. >>>>>>>> either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using >>>>>>>> file->import->adobe premiere project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is >>>>>>>> the actual editing with tails to each footage >>>>>>>> so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and >>>>>>>> see the shots as you put them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not >>>>>>>> make this transition smoothly >>>>>>>> and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small >>>>>>>> compromise. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> after you do all the effects you can render out a full quality >>>>>>>> sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software where you can >>>>>>>> compile the final sound mix. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a low res copy >>>>>>>> for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and after I get >>>>>>>> from the guy the final mix I put it back in >>>>>>>> AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and >>>>>>>> render it to whatever purpose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but that still did not help you with your issue which is you keep >>>>>>>> getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440. >>>>>>>> I am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in >>>>>>>> AE or AME. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >>>>>>>>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey All, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've been having a great time with this new drone I have, the >>>>>>>>>>> DJI Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. I found right away that using the >>>>>>>>>>> 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot because it gives you room to remove the >>>>>>>>>>> propellers when they show. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere project >>>>>>>>>>> which is set properly at 1920x1440. Then I look through it to see what I >>>>>>>>>>> want to use and render that piece out to work in AE. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 and >>>>>>>>>>> every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. Somehow I got >>>>>>>>>>> it right once but it's not working anymore. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link >>>>>>>>>>> thing) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where >>>>>>>>>>> I see the settings show correctly. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>>>>>>>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>>>>>>>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>>>>>>>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>>>>>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>>>>>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>>>>>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>>>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>>>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>>>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>>>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____________________________ >>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>> teddygage dot com >>>> >>> > > > -- > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com > -- *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347* *www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com * *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --001a11360146ed4a6c04fb7f1126 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Teddy,
=C2=A0
Yes, I can imagine = problems in New York or any built up area for that matter.=C2=A0 I do use a= bit of common sense.=C2=A0 For example that light house.=C2=A0 I made like= 3 trips there before I felt comfortable in shooting just because of excess= ive people.=C2=A0 I also don't flaunt it....sort of start out of the wa= y a bit, don't make a scene (no pun intended lo), launch, go high, come= down lower somewhere else.=C2=A0 So, I can't imagine, thought I'd = want to, lifting off in times square.
=C2=A0
I live in a small rural area.=C2=A0 That said, I don&= #39;t want to purposely test the law by launching right in front of a troop= er or anything. :)=C2=A0 So, I keep a low profile - pun intended. ha.
=
=C2=A0
But check this guy out.=C2=A0 He does tutorials and stuff but geez, he= flies over everything you can imagine!=C2=A0 Just pluck through the timeli= ne of this video a little and you will see what I mean.=C2=A0 Over beaches,= people, pools, etc.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Eric


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Teddy Gage <= ;AE-List@media= -motion.tv> wrote:
I'm pretty sure it'= s against the law in NYC, period, although probably fine if I used it in a = park and not the middle of the city. But the FAA doesn't mess around he= re, for obvious reasons. Now if only I had a project that justified one. Is= the gopro able to stream live from the drone to an ipad / iphone, or is th= e distance too far? Basically, is there a live video preview from the drone= or is it line of sight only?


On Mon, Jun 9= , 2014 at 5:06 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= wrote:

Hell, I'd never get footage if I needed= Faa approval.=C2=A0 Lol. Truth is the faa is not quite up to speed yet on = how they will be handling the increased use.=C2=A0 Just saw a story this we= ek in fact on news where, because of the great desire of film makers they m= ay not restrict drones up to 50 lbs and reserve that for larger drones for = commercial use.

Eric

On Jun 9, 2014 4:58 PM, "Gordon" <<= a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv" target=3D"_blank">AE-List@media-m= otion.tv> wrote:
I saw people walking under your drone. =C2=A0Did you= have to get any local clearances with FAA?
-g

Sent from m= y iPad

On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:47 PM, "Eric D. Kirk" = <AE-List@me= dia-motion.tv> wrote:

Teddy,

Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. Prett= y steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it.

That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that.

Eric
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.2= 06.1347
www.kirkproduc= tions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
IMDB:=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

=C2=A0




On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy Ga= ge <AE-List= @media-motion.tv> wrote:
holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really clean.= Mind me asking what the DJI rig set you back?=C2=A0
-TG


On Sat, Jun 7, 2= 014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Here's some footage i took.

Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo

On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley"= <AE-List@m= edia-motion.tv> wrote:
ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe= h264 like AVCintra 200 =C2=A0but why =C2=A0bother when you could edit nati= ve. gopro is limited to 8bits so whatever works.

S
=

On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> w= rote:

Steve,

You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing.= What alternative do you recommend?

Eric
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.2= 06.1347
www.kirkprodu= ctions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
IMDB:=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

=C2=A0




On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve O= akley <AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv> wrote:
what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res only a= nd will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into a 1920X1= 080

otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do= what you want w/o any hassle

S

On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, M= r. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hey,

Thanks for all this. =C2=A0Well, y= ou just saved me a ton of f"ing! time with that copy paste! =C2=A0Son = of a gun, I never knew you could do that. =C2=A0That of course resolves the= short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still wonder why, even with= the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 (literally while I rende= r it directly, I see it).

Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with t= he copy paste.

Eric


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM,= Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
ok=C2=A0

yo= u should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render hits which = can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk space.

you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-= pasting your sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it.
either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using file= ->import->adobe premiere project

the differe= nce between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is the actual edit= ing with tails to each footage=C2=A0
so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see t= he shots as you put them.

on the downside -> di= ssolves and other premiere effects may not make this transition smoothly
and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small co= mpromise.

after you do all the effects you can ren= der out a full quality sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing= software where you can compile the final sound mix.

if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a = low res copy for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and af= ter I get from the guy the final mix I put it back in=C2=A0
AE or= Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and render it to wha= tever purpose.

but that still did not help you with your issue which i= s you keep getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440.=C2=A0
I am now not = sure if that's a result of improper render settings in AE or AME.=C2=A0=

=




On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric= D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hey All,

I've been having a great t= ime with this new drone I have, the DJI Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. =C2= =A0I found right away that using the 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot bec= ause it gives you room to remove the propellers when they show.

My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere pr= oject which is set properly at 1920x1440. =C2=A0Then I look through it to s= ee what I want to use and render that piece out to work in AE.
I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 = and every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. =C2=A0Someh= ow I got it right once but it's not working anymore.

I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link thing= ) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where I see= the settings show correctly.

Any ideas on what I&= #39;m doing wrong?

Thanks,
Eric
<= br>
--
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0= Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
=C2=A0




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Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden i= n the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
=C2=A0




--
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H= idden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VF= X
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Hidden in th= e Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
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