From: "Dann Stubbs" Received: from atl4mhob13.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.51] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5498595 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:24:03 +0200 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.204]) by atl4mhob13.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5AIO0dk006576 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:24:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 21402 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jun 2014 18:24:00 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 24.73.238.28 X-Authenticated-UID: dsd@darkskydigital.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.5?) (dsd@darkskydigital.com@24.73.238.28) by 0 with ESMTPA; 10 Jun 2014 18:24:00 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B81D0E2E-957B-4EAC-8302-C79045D99778" Message-Id: <3F574442-528F-43D0-849B-ABE6CBEB795C@darkskydigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 14:23:59 -0400 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) --Apple-Mail=_B81D0E2E-957B-4EAC-8302-C79045D99778 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 well what are the odd of that just seconds apart. ___________________________________________________________________ Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm ___________________________________________________________________ =93You can ignore reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of = ignoring reality.=94 -Ayn Rand On Jun 10, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Greg Balint = wrote: > Aren't the smaller drones just considered similar to radio controlled = model airplanes? Isn't there like a 200 foot civilian space that is free = and clear of issues with the FAA being involved for a small radio = controlled aircraft? >=20 > All that aside. People get creeped out by them as well. Not only for = safety concerns. >=20 > I saw this video the other day. This kid got beat up by a woman = because he was flying his drone around a beach. She told the cops he = assaulted her and the only saving grace was this footage showing how = much she did to him. He would have been in jail for assault if he hadn't = been recording. >=20 > Not Safe For Some People's Work (bad language)=20 > http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3D57e_1402206030 >=20 >=20 > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > =20 >=20 > On Jun 10, 2014 1:58 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" = wrote: > Teddy, > =20 > Yes, I can imagine problems in New York or any built up area for that = matter. I do use a bit of common sense. For example that light house. = I made like 3 trips there before I felt comfortable in shooting just = because of excessive people. I also don't flaunt it....sort of start = out of the way a bit, don't make a scene (no pun intended lo), launch, = go high, come down lower somewhere else. So, I can't imagine, thought = I'd want to, lifting off in times square. > =20 > I live in a small rural area. That said, I don't want to purposely = test the law by launching right in front of a trooper or anything. :) = So, I keep a low profile - pun intended. ha. > =20 > But check this guy out. He does tutorials and stuff but geez, he = flies over everything you can imagine! Just pluck through the timeline = of this video a little and you will see what I mean. Over beaches, = people, pools, etc. > =20 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_tnQLPO-8TY > =20 > Eric >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Teddy Gage = wrote: > I'm pretty sure it's against the law in NYC, period, although probably = fine if I used it in a park and not the middle of the city. But the FAA = doesn't mess around here, for obvious reasons. Now if only I had a = project that justified one. Is the gopro able to stream live from the = drone to an ipad / iphone, or is the distance too far? Basically, is = there a live video preview from the drone or is it line of sight only? >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = wrote: > Hell, I'd never get footage if I needed Faa approval. Lol. Truth is = the faa is not quite up to speed yet on how they will be handling the = increased use. Just saw a story this week in fact on news where, = because of the great desire of film makers they may not restrict drones = up to 50 lbs and reserve that for larger drones for commercial use. >=20 > Eric >=20 > On Jun 9, 2014 4:58 PM, "Gordon" wrote: > I saw people walking under your drone. Did you have to get any local = clearances with FAA? > -g >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:47 PM, "Eric D. Kirk" = wrote: >=20 >> Teddy, >>=20 >> Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. = Pretty steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it. >>=20 >> That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that. >>=20 >> Eric >> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >> The Night Visitor | VFX >> 443.206.1347 >> www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com >> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy Gage = wrote: >> holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really clean. Mind me = asking what the DJI rig set you back?=20 >> -TG >>=20 >>=20 >> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = wrote: >> Here's some footage i took. >>=20 >> Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo >>=20 >> On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley" = wrote: >> ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe h264 like AVCintra 200 but = why bother when you could edit native. gopro is limited to 8bits so = whatever works. >>=20 >> S >>=20 >> On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk = wrote: >>=20 >>> Steve, >>>=20 >>> You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was = doing. What alternative do you recommend? >>>=20 >>> Eric >>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >>> The Night Visitor | VFX >>> 443.206.1347 >>> www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve Oakley = wrote: >>> what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res = only and will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into = a 1920X1080 >>>=20 >>> otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do what you want = w/o any hassle >>>=20 >>> S >>>=20 >>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Hey, >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks for all this. Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time = with that copy paste! Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that. = That of course resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although = I still wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering = 1920x1440 (literally while I render it directly, I see it). >>>>=20 >>>> Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with the copy = paste. >>>>=20 >>>> Eric >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref = wrote: >>>> ok=20 >>>>=20 >>>> you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render = hits which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk = space. >>>>=20 >>>> you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-pasting your = sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it. >>>> either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using = file->import->adobe premiere project >>>>=20 >>>> the difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is = the actual editing with tails to each footage=20 >>>> so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and = see the shots as you put them. >>>>=20 >>>> on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not = make this transition smoothly >>>> and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small = compromise. >>>>=20 >>>> after you do all the effects you can render out a full quality = sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software where you = can compile the final sound mix. >>>>=20 >>>> if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a low res copy = for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and after I get = from the guy the final mix I put it back in=20 >>>> AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and = render it to whatever purpose. >>>>=20 >>>> but that still did not help you with your issue which is you keep = getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440.=20 >>>> I am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in = AE or AME.=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = wrote: >>>> Hey All, >>>>=20 >>>> I've been having a great time with this new drone I have, the DJI = Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. I found right away that using the = 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot because it gives you room to remove = the propellers when they show. >>>>=20 >>>> My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere project which = is set properly at 1920x1440. Then I look through it to see what I want = to use and render that piece out to work in AE. >>>>=20 >>>> I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 and = every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. Somehow I = got it right once but it's not working anymore. >>>>=20 >>>> I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link = thing) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render = where I see the settings show correctly. >>>>=20 >>>> Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eric >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>>> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >>>> The Night Visitor | VFX >>>> 443.206.1347 >>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>>> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >>>> The Night Visitor | VFX >>>> 443.206.1347 >>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions >>>> Hidden in the Woods | VFX >>>> The Night Visitor | VFX >>>> 443.206.1347 >>>> www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com >>>> IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> =20 >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions > Hidden in the Woods | VFX > The Night Visitor | VFX > 443.206.1347 > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > =20 --Apple-Mail=_B81D0E2E-957B-4EAC-8302-C79045D99778 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 well = what are the odd of that just seconds apart.
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=93You= can ignore reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of ignoring = reality.=94 -Ayn Rand



On Jun 10, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Greg Balint <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Aren't the smaller drones just considered = similar to radio controlled model airplanes? Isn't there like a 200 foot = civilian space that is free and clear of issues with the FAA being = involved for a small radio controlled aircraft?

All = that aside. People get creeped out by them as well. Not only for safety = concerns.

I saw this video the other day. This kid = got beat up by a woman because he was flying his drone around a beach. = She told the cops he assaulted her and the only saving grace was this = footage showing how much she did to him. He would have been in jail for = assault if he hadn't been recording.

Not Safe For = Some People's Work (bad language)
http://www.livele= ak.com/view?i=3D57e_1402206030

///Greg = Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
   

On Jun 10, 2014 1:58 PM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
Teddy,
 
Yes, I can = imagine problems in New York or any built up area for that matter.  = I do use a bit of common sense.  For example that light = house.  I made like 3 trips there before I felt comfortable in = shooting just because of excessive people.  I also don't flaunt = it....sort of start out of the way a bit, don't make a scene (no pun = intended lo), launch, go high, come down lower somewhere else.  So, = I can't imagine, thought I'd want to, lifting off in times square.
 
I live in a small rural area.  That said, I = don't want to purposely test the law by launching right in front of a = trooper or anything. :)  So, I keep a low profile - pun intended. = ha.
 
But check this guy out.  He does tutorials and stuff but geez, = he flies over everything you can imagine!  Just pluck through the = timeline of this video a little and you will see what I mean.  Over = beaches, people, pools, etc.
 
<= div> 
Eric


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I'm = pretty sure it's against the law in NYC, period, although probably fine = if I used it in a park and not the middle of the city. But the FAA = doesn't mess around here, for obvious reasons. Now if only I had a = project that justified one. Is the gopro able to stream live from the = drone to an ipad / iphone, or is the distance too far? Basically, is = there a live video preview from the drone or is it line of sight = only?


On Mon, = Jun 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hell, = I'd never get footage if I needed Faa approval.  Lol. Truth is the = faa is not quite up to speed yet on how they will be handling the = increased use.  Just saw a story this week in fact on news where, = because of the great desire of film makers they may not restrict drones = up to 50 lbs and reserve that for larger drones for commercial use.

Eric

On Jun 9, 2014 4:58 PM, "Gordon" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I saw people walking under your drone.  Did = you have to get any local clearances with FAA?
-g

Sent = from my iPad

On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:47 PM, "Eric D. Kirk" = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Teddy,

Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. = Pretty steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it.

That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that.

Eric
Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.206.1347
www.kirkproductions.com
kirkproductions@gmail.com
IMDB:  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

 




On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy = Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really = clean. Mind me asking what the DJI rig set you = back? 
-TG


On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Here's= some footage i took.

Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: = http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo

On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
ProRes, photojpeg. could even do = iframe h264 like AVCintra 200  but why  bother when you could = edit native. gopro is limited to 8bits so whatever = works.

S

On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Steve,

You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing. = What alternative do you recommend?

Eric
Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.206.1347
www.kirkproductions.com
kirkproductions@gmail.com
IMDB:  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

 




On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, = Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res = only and will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into = a 1920X1080

otherwise opening the PP TL directly into = AE will do what you want w/o any hassle

S

On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 = AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Hey,

Thanks for all this. =  Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time with that copy paste! =  Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that.  That of course = resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still wonder = why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 = (literally while I render it directly, I see it).

Understand the hits and this just eliminated one = with the copy paste.

Eric


On Sat, Jun 7, = 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
ok 

you should try to = minimize you going back and forth taking render hits which can = compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk space.

you can still work without dynamic link simply by = copy-pasting your sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it.
either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using = file->import->adobe premiere project

the = difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is the = actual editing with tails to each footage 
so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and = see the shots as you put them.

on the downside = -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not make this transition = smoothly
and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small = compromise.

after you do all the effects you = can render out a full quality sequence through encoder or Ae to your = Video editing software where you can compile the final sound mix.

if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out = a low res copy for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) = and after I get from the guy the final mix I put it back = in 
AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render = underneath and render it to whatever purpose.

but that still did not help you with your issue = which is you keep getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440. 
I = am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in AE or = AME. 





On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. = Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
Hey All,

I've been having a great = time with this new drone I have, the DJI Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. =  I found right away that using the 1920x1440 is the best way to = shoot because it gives you room to remove the propellers when they = show.

My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere = project which is set properly at 1920x1440.  Then I look through it = to see what I want to use and render that piece out to work in = AE.

I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 = and every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. =  Somehow I got it right once but it's not working = anymore.

I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link = thing) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render = where I see the settings show correctly.

Any = ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks,
Eric

-- =
Eric D. Kirk | Kirk = Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
 




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Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
 




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The Night Visitor | VFX
 
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