Mailing List AE-List@media-motion.tv — Message #54235
From: John Morgan <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Subject: RE: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 19:00:04 +0000
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To answer Teddy’s question about live preview, yes that capability exists. I have it on my setup. They call it “FPV” for first-person view. The Zenmuse gimbals for GoPro Hero cameras have a connector that plugs into the GoPro’s viewfinder port. To get FPV, you need an on-board video transmitter gizmo that transmits the viewfinder stream to the pilot who has a receiver/monitor attached to his/her flight controller (also called transmitter or “Tx”.) Gives you a pretty good shot of what the drone is seeing in flight. You wouldn’t necessarily want to fly the craft via the FPV, but you can in a pinch. With GPS flight mode enabled, you can pretty much trust the drone to maintain a constant altitude (once you’re high enough to be above potential obstacles) and can then fly-by-viewfinder or FPV. But for takeoff/landing/navigation near obstacles nothing is better than line-of-sight. GoPro cameras, even in medium angle of view, make things appear farther away than they really are. If you were going to FVP your way through trees for example, you’d be asking for trouble.

 

Thanks Eric for making me aware that Zenmuse now has a 3D gimbal! I’ll be getting one very soon…upgrading my 2D version to 3D.

 

John

 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440

 

Teddy,

 

Yes, I can imagine problems in New York or any built up area for that matter.  I do use a bit of common sense.  For example that light house.  I made like 3 trips there before I felt comfortable in shooting just because of excessive people.  I also don't flaunt it....sort of start out of the way a bit, don't make a scene (no pun intended lo), launch, go high, come down lower somewhere else.  So, I can't imagine, thought I'd want to, lifting off in times square.

 

I live in a small rural area.  That said, I don't want to purposely test the law by launching right in front of a trooper or anything. :)  So, I keep a low profile - pun intended. ha.

 

But check this guy out.  He does tutorials and stuff but geez, he flies over everything you can imagine!  Just pluck through the timeline of this video a little and you will see what I mean.  Over beaches, people, pools, etc.

 

 

Eric

 

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I'm pretty sure it's against the law in NYC, period, although probably fine if I used it in a park and not the middle of the city. But the FAA doesn't mess around here, for obvious reasons. Now if only I had a project that justified one. Is the gopro able to stream live from the drone to an ipad / iphone, or is the distance too far? Basically, is there a live video preview from the drone or is it line of sight only?

 

On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hell, I'd never get footage if I needed Faa approval.  Lol. Truth is the faa is not quite up to speed yet on how they will be handling the increased use.  Just saw a story this week in fact on news where, because of the great desire of film makers they may not restrict drones up to 50 lbs and reserve that for larger drones for commercial use.

Eric

On Jun 9, 2014 4:58 PM, "Gordon" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I saw people walking under your drone.  Did you have to get any local clearances with FAA?

-g

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On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:47 PM, "Eric D. Kirk" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Teddy,

Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. Pretty steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it.

That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that.

Eric
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On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really clean. Mind me asking what the DJI rig set you back? 

-TG

 

On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Here's some footage i took.

Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo

On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe h264 like AVCintra 200  but why  bother when you could edit native. gopro is limited to 8bits so whatever works.

 

S

 

On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:



Steve,

You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing. What alternative do you recommend?

Eric
Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.206.1347
www.kirkproductions.com
kirkproductions@gmail.com
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On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res only and will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into a 1920X1080

 

otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do what you want w/o any hassle

 

S

 

On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:



Hey,

 

Thanks for all this.  Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time with that copy paste!  Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that.  That of course resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 (literally while I render it directly, I see it).

 

Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with the copy paste.

 

Eric

 

On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

ok 

 

you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render hits which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk space.

 

you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-pasting your sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it.

either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using file->import->adobe premiere project

 

the difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is the actual editing with tails to each footage 

so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see the shots as you put them.

 

on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not make this transition smoothly

and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small compromise.

 

after you do all the effects you can render out a full quality sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software where you can compile the final sound mix.

 

if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a low res copy for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and after I get from the guy the final mix I put it back in 

AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and render it to whatever purpose.

 

but that still did not help you with your issue which is you keep getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440. 

I am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in AE or AME. 

 

 

 

 

On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Hey All,

 

I've been having a great time with this new drone I have, the DJI Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera.  I found right away that using the 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot because it gives you room to remove the propellers when they show.

 

My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere project which is set properly at 1920x1440.  Then I look through it to see what I want to use and render that piece out to work in AE.

 

I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 and every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080.  Somehow I got it right once but it's not working anymore.

 

I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link thing) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where I see the settings show correctly.

 

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?

 

Thanks,
Eric

 

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Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions

Hidden in the Woods | VFX

The Night Visitor | VFX

 

 



 

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Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions

Hidden in the Woods | VFX

The Night Visitor | VFX

 

 



 

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Hidden in the Woods | VFX

The Night Visitor | VFX

 

 

 



 

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