From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com ([209.85.213.182] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5498635 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:03:06 +0200 Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id a13so5528436igq.9 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:03:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=bHjym2DZegL6Ud4EA2mLfIp4IQeQ+X1T0eiKu9gv1n8=; b=po1xuUOfPug7LLDQbkbOKF+QHMVaaUQFPJmMNRBiX48eFkGkz3PIuXF1dhIAUe0wSy oJ3rRUyrgtmTuePTnc24FEkLNHg8m6T1+6dwI1L6Yp58+bvvpTH/THNhyhUh+rpUnjJD EuMzUj6PHdoMfVSDwgMwvuyIm016b1t+/dKegYms923bxKK+L7Xio4J27k0VV5MmLDQX MUwVcqB5z09UZ5ezp0wBnkq6xaqEy40rbnblrsuxPahofORtuFD8dR3gN3mQVW2YrHqw x/lVexdT1xitXvV2mCcw1MwBz33tJsZqx1EXyXJfclhYPqbJtJG2Ju/ZrIsPnV3aclNb cCbQ== X-Received: by 10.42.104.9 with SMTP id p9mr6427574ico.52.1402426985385; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:03:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.253.196 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:02:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:02:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf306848d349959604fb7ffa17 --20cf306848d349959604fb7ffa17 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey John, I was just answering this same thing. Your answer is more in depth since you have it. :) I guess I didn't even realize when I got the gimbal that there was a 2D predecessor. Glad I could help! Eric On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:00 PM, John Morgan wrote: > To answer Teddy=E2=80=99s question about live preview, yes that capabili= ty > exists. I have it on my setup. They call it =E2=80=9CFPV=E2=80=9D for fir= st-person view. > The Zenmuse gimbals for GoPro Hero cameras have a connector that plugs in= to > the GoPro=E2=80=99s viewfinder port. To get FPV, you need an on-board vid= eo > transmitter gizmo that transmits the viewfinder stream to the pilot who h= as > a receiver/monitor attached to his/her flight controller (also called > transmitter or =E2=80=9CTx=E2=80=9D.) Gives you a pretty good shot of wha= t the drone is > seeing in flight. You wouldn=E2=80=99t necessarily want to fly the craft = via the > FPV, but you can in a pinch. With GPS flight mode enabled, you can pretty > much trust the drone to maintain a constant altitude (once you=E2=80=99re= high > enough to be above potential obstacles) and can then fly-by-viewfinder or > FPV. But for takeoff/landing/navigation near obstacles nothing is better > than line-of-sight. GoPro cameras, even in medium angle of view, make > things appear farther away than they really are. If you were going to FVP > your way through trees for example, you=E2=80=99d be asking for trouble. > > > > Thanks Eric for making me aware that Zenmuse now has a 3D gimbal! I=E2=80= =99ll be > getting one very soon=E2=80=A6upgrading my 2D version to 3D. > > > > John > > > > *From:* After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:58 AM > *To:* After Effects Mail List > *Subject:* Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440 > > > > Teddy, > > > > Yes, I can imagine problems in New York or any built up area for that > matter. I do use a bit of common sense. For example that light house. = I > made like 3 trips there before I felt comfortable in shooting just becaus= e > of excessive people. I also don't flaunt it....sort of start out of the > way a bit, don't make a scene (no pun intended lo), launch, go high, come > down lower somewhere else. So, I can't imagine, thought I'd want to, > lifting off in times square. > > > > I live in a small rural area. That said, I don't want to purposely test > the law by launching right in front of a trooper or anything. :) So, I > keep a low profile - pun intended. ha. > > > > But check this guy out. He does tutorials and stuff but geez, he flies > over everything you can imagine! Just pluck through the timeline of this > video a little and you will see what I mean. Over beaches, people, pools= , > etc. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_tnQLPO-8TY > > > > Eric > > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Teddy Gage > wrote: > > I'm pretty sure it's against the law in NYC, period, although probably > fine if I used it in a park and not the middle of the city. But the FAA > doesn't mess around here, for obvious reasons. Now if only I had a projec= t > that justified one. Is the gopro able to stream live from the drone to an > ipad / iphone, or is the distance too far? Basically, is there a live vid= eo > preview from the drone or is it line of sight only? > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk > wrote: > > Hell, I'd never get footage if I needed Faa approval. Lol. Truth is the > faa is not quite up to speed yet on how they will be handling the increas= ed > use. Just saw a story this week in fact on news where, because of the > great desire of film makers they may not restrict drones up to 50 lbs and > reserve that for larger drones for commercial use. > > Eric > > On Jun 9, 2014 4:58 PM, "Gordon" wrote: > > I saw people walking under your drone. Did you have to get any local > clearances with FAA? > > -g > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:47 PM, "Eric D. Kirk" > wrote: > > Teddy, > > Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. Prett= y > steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it. > > That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that. > > Eric > Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions > Hidden in the Woods | VFX > The Night Visitor | VFX > 443.206.1347 > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > > > > > > On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy Gage > wrote: > > holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really clean. Mind me > asking what the DJI rig set you back? > > -TG > > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk > wrote: > > Here's some footage i took. > > Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo > > On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley" wrote: > > ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe h264 like AVCintra 200 but why > bother when you could edit native. gopro is limited to 8bits so whatever > works. > > > > S > > > > On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk wrote= : > > > > Steve, > > You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing. > What alternative do you recommend? > > Eric > Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions > Hidden in the Woods | VFX > The Night Visitor | VFX > 443.206.1347 > www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > > > > > > On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve Oakley > wrote: > > what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its limited to HD res only > and will do exactly what you are describing - force your image into a > 1920X1080 > > > > otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do what you want w/o an= y > hassle > > > > S > > > > On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk > wrote: > > > > Hey, > > > > Thanks for all this. Well, you just saved me a ton of f"ing! time with > that copy paste! Son of a gun, I never knew you could do that. That of > course resolves the short term issue of the 1440 thing, although I still > wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 > (literally while I render it directly, I see it). > > > > Understand the hits and this just eliminated one with the copy paste. > > > > Eric > > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref > wrote: > > ok > > > > you should try to minimize you going back and forth taking render hits > which can compromise quality and potentially waste of time and disk space= . > > > > you can still work without dynamic link simply by copy-pasting your > sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it. > > either do that or just import the whole premiere project by using > file->import->adobe premiere project > > > > the difference between dynamic link is - it's not linked. these is the > actual editing with tails to each footage > > so now you can do any thing from effects to color correction and see the > shots as you put them. > > > > on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere effects may not make this > transition smoothly > > and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my opinion a small > compromise. > > > > after you do all the effects you can render out a full quality sequence > through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software where you can compil= e > the final sound mix. > > > > if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out a low res copy for a > sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and after I get from th= e > guy the final mix I put it back in > > AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render underneath and render it > to whatever purpose. > > > > but that still did not help you with your issue which is you keep getting > 1920x1080 instead of 1440. > > I am now not sure if that's a result of improper render settings in AE or > AME. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk > wrote: > > Hey All, > > > > I've been having a great time with this new drone I have, the DJI Phantom > 2 with my GoPro camera. I found right away that using the 1920x1440 is t= he > best way to shoot because it gives you room to remove the propellers when > they show. > > > > My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere project which is set > properly at 1920x1440. Then I look through it to see what I want to use > and render that piece out to work in AE. > > > > I've tried numerous times to render out a clip at 1920x1440 and every > single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080. Somehow I got it > right once but it's not working anymore. > > > > I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective (chain link thing) s= o > it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to render where I see th= e > settings show correctly. > > > > Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? > > > > Thanks, > Eric > > > > -- > > *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions* > > *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* > > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > > *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* > > > *www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com * > > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > * > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Eric D. Kirk | Kirk Productions* > > *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* > > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > > *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* > > > *www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com * > > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > * > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Eric D. 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Hey John,
=C2=A0
I was just answe= ring this same thing.=C2=A0 Your answer is more in depth since you have it.= :)=C2=A0 I guess I didn't even realize when I got the gimbal that ther= e was a 2D predecessor.=C2=A0 Glad I could help!
=C2=A0
Eric


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:00 PM, John Morgan <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

To answer Teddy=E2= =80=99s question about live preview, yes that capability exists. I have it = on my setup. They call it =E2=80=9CFPV=E2=80=9D for first-person view. The = Zenmuse gimbals for GoPro Hero cameras have a connector that plugs into the GoPro=E2=80=99= s viewfinder port. To get FPV, you need an on-board video transmitter gizmo= that transmits the viewfinder stream to the pilot who has a receiver/monit= or attached to his/her flight controller (also called transmitter or =E2=80=9CTx=E2=80=9D.) Gives you a pretty good= shot of what the drone is seeing in flight. You wouldn=E2=80=99t necessari= ly want to fly the craft via the FPV, but you can in a pinch. With GPS flig= ht mode enabled, you can pretty much trust the drone to maintain a constant altitude (once you=E2=80=99re high enough to be above = potential obstacles) and can then fly-by-viewfinder or FPV. But for takeoff= /landing/navigation near obstacles nothing is better than line-of-sight. Go= Pro cameras, even in medium angle of view, make things appear farther away than they really are. If you were going to= FVP your way through trees for example, you=E2=80=99d be asking for troubl= e.

=C2=A0=

Thanks Eric for maki= ng me aware that Zenmuse now has a 3D gimbal! I=E2=80=99ll be getting one v= ery soon=E2=80=A6upgrading my 2D version to 3D.

=C2=A0=

John

=C2=A0=

From: After Effe= cts Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 11:58 AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Adobe Premiere Pro 1920x1440<= /p>

=C2=A0

Teddy,

=C2=A0

Yes, I can imagine problems in New York or any built= up area for that matter.=C2=A0 I do use a bit of common sense.=C2=A0 For e= xample that light house.=C2=A0 I made like 3 trips there before I felt comf= ortable in shooting just because of excessive people.=C2=A0 I also don't flaunt it....sort of start out of the way a bit, don'= t make a scene (no pun intended lo), launch, go high, come down lower somew= here else.=C2=A0 So, I can't imagine, thought I'd want to, lifting = off in times square.

=C2=A0

I live in a small rural area.=C2=A0 That said, I don= 't want to purposely test the law by launching right in front of a troo= per or anything. :)=C2=A0 So, I keep a low profile - pun intended. ha.

=C2=A0

But check this guy out.=C2=A0 He does tutorials and = stuff but geez, he flies over everything you can imagine!=C2=A0 Just pluck = through the timeline of this video a little and you will see what I mean.= =C2=A0 Over beaches, people, pools, etc.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Eric

=C2=A0

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-moti= on.tv> wrote:

I'm pretty sure it's against the law in NYC,= period, although probably fine if I used it in a park and not the middle o= f the city. But the FAA doesn't mess around here, for obvious reasons. = Now if only I had a project that justified one. Is the gopro able to stream live from the drone to an ipad / iphone, or is= the distance too far? Basically, is there a live video preview from the dr= one or is it line of sight only?

=C2=A0

On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <= ;AE-List@media= -motion.tv> wrote:

Hell, I'd never get footage if I needed Faa approval.=C2=A0 Lol. Tru= th is the faa is not quite up to speed yet on how they will be handling the= increased use.=C2=A0 Just saw a story this week in fact on news where, bec= ause of the great desire of film makers they may not restrict drones up to 50 lbs and reserve that for larger drones for co= mmercial use.

Eric

On Jun 9, 2014 4:58 PM, "Gordon" <AE-List@media-motio= n.tv> wrote:

I saw people walking under your drone. =C2=A0Did you= have to get any local clearances with FAA?

-g

Sent from my iPad


On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:47 PM, "Eric D. Kirk" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= wrote:

Teddy,

Not at all. The rig which comes with a go pro gimble is about $959. Pretty = steep and i pondered it for like 3 months. Well worth it.

That's NOT counting the camera but i already had that.

Eric
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.206.1347
www.kirkproduc= tions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
IMDB:=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

=C2=A0



On June 7, 2014 3:16:39 PM EDT, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motio= n.tv> wrote:

holy crap that looks like fun. Footage looks really = clean. Mind me asking what the DJI rig set you back?=C2=A0

-TG

=C2=A0

On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <= ;AE-List@media= -motion.tv> wrote:

Here's some footage i took.

Light House Aerial HdG Maryland: http://youtu.be/Zu8Kx4R5XJo

On Jun 7, 2014 1:56 PM, "Steve Oakley" <= ;AE-List@media= -motion.tv> wrote:

ProRes, photojpeg. could even do iframe h264 like AV= Cintra 200 =C2=A0but why =C2=A0bother when you could edit native. gopro is = limited to 8bits so whatever works.

=C2=A0

S

=C2=A0

On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion= .tv> wrote:



Steve,

You, my friend just resolved it then. That's exactly what i was doing. = What alternative do you recommend?

Eric
Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
443.206.1347
www.kirkprodu= ctions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
IMDB:=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/

=C2=A0



On June 7, 2014 11:02:50 AM EDT, Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-mo= tion.tv> wrote:

what codec are you rendering to ? if its DNxHD its l= imited to HD res only and will do exactly what you are describing - force y= our image into a 1920X1080

=C2=A0

otherwise opening the PP TL directly into AE will do= what you want w/o any hassle

=C2=A0

S

=C2=A0

On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-mot= ion.tv> wrote:



Hey,

=C2=A0

Thanks for all this. =C2=A0Well, you just saved me a= ton of f"ing! time with that copy paste! =C2=A0Son of a gun, I never = knew you could do that. =C2=A0That of course resolves the short term issue = of the 1440 thing, although I still wonder why, even with the settings indicating it is rendering 1920x1440 (literally while I rende= r it directly, I see it).

=C2=A0

Understand the hits and this just eliminated one wit= h the copy paste.

=C2=A0

Eric

=C2=A0

On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-mot= ion.tv> wrote:

ok=C2=A0

=C2=A0

you should try to minimize you going back and forth = taking render hits which can compromise quality and potentially waste of ti= me and disk space.

=C2=A0

you can still work without dynamic link simply by co= py-pasting your sequence from Premiere to Ae - Try it.

either do that or just import the whole premiere pro= ject by using file->import->adobe premiere project

=C2=A0

the difference between dynamic link is - it's no= t linked. these is the actual editing with tails to each footage=C2=A0

so now you can do any thing from effects to color co= rrection and see the shots as you put them.

=C2=A0

on the downside -> dissolves and other premiere e= ffects may not make this transition smoothly

and maybe you will have to recreate them. but in my = opinion a small compromise.

=C2=A0

after you do all the effects you can render out a fu= ll quality sequence through encoder or Ae to your Video editing software wh= ere you can compile the final sound mix.

=C2=A0

if its a heavy pipeline project usually I render out= a low res copy for a sound mix (where a specialist does the sound mix) and= after I get from the guy the final mix I put it back in=C2=A0

AE or Preimiere with a full quality video render und= erneath and render it to whatever purpose.

=C2=A0

but that still did not help you with your issue whic= h is you keep getting 1920x1080 instead of 1440.=C2=A0

I am now not sure if that's a result of improper= render settings in AE or AME.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <= ;AE-List@media= -motion.tv> wrote:

Hey All,

=C2=A0

I've been having a great time with this new dron= e I have, the DJI Phantom 2 with my GoPro camera. =C2=A0I found right away = that using the 1920x1440 is the best way to shoot because it gives you room= to remove the propellers when they show.

=C2=A0

My problem is, I breing the footage in to a Premiere= project which is set properly at 1920x1440. =C2=A0Then I look through it t= o see what I want to use and render that piece out to work in AE.=

=C2=A0

I've tried numerous times to render out a clip a= t 1920x1440 and every single time, I bring it in to AE and it is 1920x1080.= =C2=A0Somehow I got it right once but it's not working anymore.=

=C2=A0

I set the pixels, ensuring I unclick the perspective= (chain link thing) so it accepts my settings and send to media encoder to = render where I see the settings show correctly.

=C2=A0

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?=

=C2=A0

Thanks,
Eric

=C2=A0=

-- =

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Hidden in = the Woods | VFX=

The Night = Visitor | VFX

=C2=A0

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The Night Visitor | VFX

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Hidden in the Woods | VFX

The Night Visitor | VFX

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