From: "Robert Kjettrup" Received: from mail-ve0-f177.google.com ([209.85.128.177] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5498679 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:18:02 +0200 Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id oz11so4198321veb.22 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:18:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=0AIKcCVqW+HbfSle+BDv2M7T1yJfw34XnfDUH06QgdE=; b=MOb18aRADMBVUGJIvp4c91/5v2tux31TNCQyNkt9xC4bcaw1Wj8VkGm2S6o+rmkyYb 0RYAPcl//rO0JmOElnVKEIrpL+Cq+OQ+vbzaPSN7Vx6NiedVLz7tj8m7Qy5P5jTHtOCk R51W/P9FMhJtp6a806N17T+beb8XUSi0YcfoHEASFZQN3v2ryxwiC6euIknWLb1CD0Yl R0E77RDtsdMtOmU24WZj8aphxw0nYc5AMJT4mEKHsBPtuR2e1AaOCzubSZt1C6ff2x6O B4hkDPraQT80SFScDieE9gA6Jux8+9dSPUPPXhpa3v2nonMU8l3fDTDgOgqWT2uYbfMw L4HQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmjRGILfCGAiukGMVRAjixzkFUeV0p3qBuMupKhLe4awWtBv3uY+deG5FlnCPtPxHgLnR8Y X-Received: by 10.52.64.225 with SMTP id r1mr28704531vds.30.1402431480026; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:18:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.150.167 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:17:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:17:39 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Lossless movie format To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec501629b3071ff04fb8106cb --bcaec501629b3071ff04fb8106cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'd say that Stephen's rant is right on target. really hoping this projects takes off - Robert 2014-06-09 19:52 GMT+02:00 Stephen van Vuuren : > I know most everyone here knows this stuff but for the Kickstarter.... > > //RANT ON > > The utter failure of the industry to provide a lossless, cross-platform, > accurate and playable file format for video and film post-production is one > of the major headaches of post-production. > > The hours, days, weeks - probably months if you add it all up - wasted on > not being able to write ProRes files on Windows, dealing with years of > gamma shift issues on QuickTime on Macintosh including have major companies > create workarounds in their codes. > > Microsoft has sorely neglected the AVI file format to make in near > irrelevant in the modern age. Apple abandoned QuickTime Pro years ago. > Avid's codecs have failed to incorporate digital cinema and other important > standards. Adobe has missed an opportunity to provide a solution to a > long-standing industry issue. > > Some small developers have tried and failed to create formats suffering > from poor performance and many of the other problems that plague current > formats. > > MOX will be open, modern, supporting the worlds of global broadcast, web, > digital cinema (DCI compliance) and digital archiving - finally allowing us > to read and write to a single format that can be read and opened on any > post-production system without worrying about errors, gamma shifts, > proprietary systems and the like. > > We've suffered long enough under piles of 16-bit TIFF image sequences - > bring us MOX!!! > > //RANT OFF > > > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 > > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > > A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be > a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, > the meaning, all that comes later. > -Stanley Kubrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 1:15 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] Lossless movie format > > On Jun 8, 2014, at 12:05 PM, Louai Abu-Osba wrote: > > > I hadn't realized this picked up again. I'm so beyond excited. I think > MOX is a great name and I love the proposal. > > > Thanks for the encouragement, Louai. > > I have a question for everyone: what have been your past struggles with > existing file formats that you hope to solve with MOX? > > In other words: let's hear your rant about QuickTime/AVI/OMF/etc. > > > Your responses will help me with the Kickstarter video and other messaging > blah blah blah. > > > Brendan > > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to > --bcaec501629b3071ff04fb8106cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd say that Stephen's rant is right on target.
really hoping this projects takes off


- R= obert=C2=A0


2014-06-09 19:52 GMT+02:00 St= ephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:
I know most everyone here knows this stuff but for the Kickstarter....

//RANT ON

The utter failure of the industry to provide a lossless, cross-platform, ac= curate and playable file format for video and film post-production is one o= f the major headaches of post-production.

The hours, days, weeks - probably months if you add it all up - wasted on n= ot being able to write ProRes files on Windows, dealing with years of gamma= shift issues on QuickTime on Macintosh including have major companies crea= te workarounds in their codes.

Microsoft has sorely neglected the AVI file format to make in near irreleva= nt in the modern age. Apple abandoned QuickTime Pro years ago. Avid's c= odecs have failed to incorporate digital cinema and other important standar= ds. Adobe has missed an opportunity to provide a solution to a long-standin= g industry issue.

Some small developers have tried and failed to create formats suffering fro= m poor performance and many of the other problems that plague current forma= ts.

MOX will be open, modern, supporting the worlds of global broadcast, web, d= igital cinema (DCI compliance) and digital archiving - finally allowing us = to read and write to a single format that can be read and opened on any pos= t-production system without worrying about errors, gamma shifts, proprietar= y systems and the like.

We've suffered long enough under piles of 16-bit TIFF image sequences -= bring us MOX!!!

//RANT OFF


stephen van vuuren
336.202.4777

http://www.ins= aturnsrings.com/
http://www.sv2dcp.com/=
http://www.sv2stud= ios.com/

A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emoti= on, the meaning, all that comes later.
-Stanley Kubrick

-----Original Message-----
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 1:15 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Lossless movie format

On Jun 8, 2014, at 12:05 PM, = Louai Abu-Osba wrote:

> I hadn't realized this picked up again. I'm so beyond excited.= I think MOX is a great name and I love the proposal.


Thanks for the encouragement, Louai.

I have a question for everyone: what have been your past struggles with exi= sting file formats that you hope to solve with MOX?

In other words: let's hear your rant about QuickTime/AVI/OMF/etc.


Your responses will help me with the Kickstarter video and other messaging = blah blah blah.


Brendan


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