From: "Stephen van Vuuren" Received: from [207.46.163.144] (HELO na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5498787 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 11 Jun 2014 00:59:13 +0200 Received: from CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.71.15) by CO1PR06MB268.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.71.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.949.11; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:59:09 +0000 Received: from CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.7.138]) by CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.7.138]) with mapi id 15.00.0949.001; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:59:09 +0000 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] Lossless movie format Thread-Topic: [AE] Lossless movie format Thread-Index: AQHPhPhPqb725T7kGUCl38wyP1OhQJtq8unw Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:59:08 +0000 Message-ID: <1705867359af4c02ae96793404b4e8fb@CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [108.201.18.6] x-microsoft-antispam: BL:0;ACTION:Default;RISK:Low;SCL:0;SPMLVL:NotSpam;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 0238AEEDB0 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(6009001)(428001)(189002)(13464003)(199002)(377454003)(24454002)(15975445006)(76482001)(74662001)(80022001)(76576001)(50986999)(46102001)(74502001)(86362001)(66066001)(87936001)(74316001)(54356999)(76176999)(31966008)(20776003)(83072002)(33646001)(85852003)(4396001)(92566001)(19580395003)(83322001)(19580405001)(15202345003)(101416001)(99286001)(64706001)(81342001)(21056001)(2656002)(81542001)(77982001)(99396002)(79102001)(24736002);DIR:OUT;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:CO1PR06MB268;H:CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;MLV:sfv;PTR:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; received-spf: None (: sv2studios.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=stephen@sv2studios.com; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sv2studios.com > OK, so here's my follow-up question: what advantages are there to having = a movie format with these capabilities if you can already use image sequenc= es to get the same result? >Is it a personal preference, or are there significant workflow issues? 16-bit TIFF sequences are performance dogs for editing - trying bringing 4= K TIFF in your NLE of choice and enjoy the molasses. Plus, for rendering im= age sequences do have their value but having a single file master is ultima= tely far more useful and safer e.g. why DCI wrapped those JPEG2000's in a M= XF for distribution, playback and archiving. PNG image sequences I often see playback reliability issues with as well as= other problems so I don't use them at all. And many apps (looking at you Premiere CC and several others can't even wri= te those or write them poorly (Sony Vegas) often without compression or hig= her bit depth options. Plus the compression schemes are old and antiquated. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, = the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick -----Original Message----- From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:07 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Lossless movie format On Jun 9, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Stephen van Vuuren wrote: > We've suffered long enough under piles of 16-bit TIFF image sequences - b= ring us MOX!!! OK, so here's my follow-up question: what advantages are there to having a = movie format with these capabilities if you can already use image sequences= to get the same result? Is it a personal preference, or are there significant workflow issues? Brendan +---End of message---+ To unsubscribe send any message to