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Subject: Re: [AE] AE into AVID with Alpha help
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are we talking about MOV files?

I know you wrote you sent straight alpha - you should double check if AE
interperts the file you sent as straight alpha in the project preview
window thus eliminating the option that you did actually sent the
premultiplied version instead of straight. just checking if it looks fine
on AE wont help you since if it is premultiplied it will look fine and on
Avid it wont.



On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Rendernyc <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

> There are choices in the import dialog box in avid. Those folks should
> have a closet look
>
> On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:58 PM, "Robert" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
>
> I have found that most of my problems have stemmed from the choices the
> editor makes on the Avid import settings.
>
>     -Rob
>
> On 6/11/2014 4:40 PM, Lachlan Westfall wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I'm sending lower 3rd and titles to folks who are importing in an Avid.
>
> I was sending Lossless with PreMultiplied alpha, then I found out that
> Avid prefers a Straight alpha, but switching has not seemed to have solved
> the problem on their end.
>
> They sent me back a composited clip and it's like the edges are way too
> clean. It's like there's NO anti-aliasing.
>
> I took my comp and put it on top of their footage in AE and it was nice
> and smooth.
>
> I don't know what else I can do other than send them Straight or
> PreMultiplied alphas.
>
> Could this be something I'm doing wrong on export? or, as I suspect, could
> this be an issue with how they are importing the Alpha?
>
> Any help is much appreciated!
>
> -Lachlan Westfall
> Quiet Earth Design
>
>
> --
> Robert Houghton
> -----------------
> Houghton Media
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>are we talking about MOV files?=C2=A0</div><div><br><=
/div><div>I know you wrote you sent straight alpha - you should double chec=
k if AE interperts the file you sent as straight alpha in the project previ=
ew window thus eliminating the option that you did actually sent the premul=
tiplied version instead of straight. just checking if it looks fine on AE w=
ont help you since if it is premultiplied it will look fine and on Avid it =
wont.</div>
<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Rendernyc <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv" target=3D"_blank">AE-List@media-mo=
tion.tv</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>There are choices in =
the import dialog box in avid. Those folks should have a closet look=C2=A0<=
/div><div>
<div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On Jun 11, 2014, at 7:58 PM, &quot;Robert&quot; =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv" target=3D"_blank">AE-List@me=
dia-motion.tv</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
 =20
   =20
 =20
 =20
    I have found that most of my problems have stemmed from the choices
    the editor makes on the Avid import settings.<br>
    <br>
    =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 -Rob<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 6/11/2014 4:40 PM, Lachlan Westfall
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <span><span>Hey folks,
          <br>
          <br>
          I&#39;m sending lower <span style=3D"display:inline;font-size:inh=
erit;padding:0pt"><span style=3D"display:inline;font-size:inherit;padding:0=
pt">3rd</span></span>
          and titles to folks who are importing in an Avid.
          <br>
          <br>
          I was sending Lossless with PreMultiplied alpha, then I found
          out that Avid prefers a Straight alpha, but switching has not
          seemed to have solved the problem on their end.
          <br>
          <br>
          They sent me back a composited clip and it&#39;s like the edges
          are way too clean. It&#39;s like there&#39;s NO anti-aliasing.
          <br>
          <br>
          I took my comp and put it on top of their footage in AE and it
          was nice and smooth.
          <br>
          <br>
          I don&#39;t know what else I can do other than send them Straight
          or PreMultiplied alphas.
          <br>
          <br>
          Could this be something I&#39;m doing wrong on export? or, as I
          suspect, could this be an issue with how they are importing
          the Alpha?
          <br>
          <br>
          Any help is much appreciated!
          <br>
          <br>
          -Lachlan Westfall
          <br>
          Quiet Earth Design=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span><br>
      </span>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <pre cols=3D"72">--=20
Robert Houghton
-----------------
Houghton Media</pre>
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