From: "David Torno" Received: from atl4mhob19.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.112] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5511537 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:36:26 +0200 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.205]) by atl4mhob19.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s5QGaJ8k018256 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 12:36:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 29655 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jun 2014 16:36:16 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 108.184.252.87 X-Authenticated-UID: torno@sydefxink.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.8?) (torno@sydefxink.com@108.184.252.87) by 0 with ESMTPA; 26 Jun 2014 16:36:15 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-FB6ECB0F-910F-4F7C-AE30-97331E65354E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [AE] Depreciated output formats gone completely in AE 2014 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:36:14 -0700 References: In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) --Apple-Mail-FB6ECB0F-910F-4F7C-AE30-97331E65354E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd say that H264 as a final master is very terrifying to me, for history's s= ake. Sounds like the old days of video introduction that left a number of TV= shows stuck in a format that was unable to be cleanly up rez'd to Anything a= bove 1280x720. The general populous has become way too use to the look of co= mpressed footage now-a-days. When the new future formats come into play, we'= ll all be having those same conversations of, blowups. History does repeat i= tself apparently. I think we've regressed with the progress if technology is= a sense. Mini rant. Greg, more to your note, I actually haven't noticed a big hit with AME and A= E working side-by-side, but I haven't really pushed it either. I know we sto= pped using H264 out of AE years ago as it still has a gamma issue. Always ha= ve to correct it in QT on every export. X264, when it works fixed that, but h= as been unreliable for us for years too. Always crashes and fails within wee= ks of install. We've stuck to the PR4444 outputs that get cut down to H264 i= n QT. Got a decent clean clip and a compressed preview. David Torno Technical Director http://www.ghosttownmedia.com O: 213.739.2290 C: 818.391.6060 -------------------- http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field > On Jun 26, 2014, at 9:15 AM, "Greg Balint" wrote= : >=20 > Yes.. I know.. h.264 isn't a great format for mastering at all.. and I > should probably have some other workflow.. but it doesn't really > matter in my setup.. my clients have always been happy with what I've > provided them and I've never had a need for uncompressed masters, > etc.. --Apple-Mail-FB6ECB0F-910F-4F7C-AE30-97331E65354E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd say that H264 as a final master is= very terrifying to me, for history's sake. Sounds like the old days of vide= o introduction that left a number of TV shows stuck in a format that was una= ble to be cleanly up rez'd to Anything above 1280x720. The general populous h= as become way too use to the look of compressed footage now-a-days. When the= new future formats come into play, we'll all be having those same conversat= ions of, blowups. History does repeat itself apparently. I think we've regre= ssed with the progress if technology is a sense. Mini rant.

Greg, more to your note, I actually haven't noticed a big hit with A= ME and AE working side-by-side, but I haven't really pushed it either. I kno= w we stopped using H264 out of AE years ago as it still has a gamma issue. A= lways have to correct it in QT on every export. X264, when it works fixed th= at, but has been unreliable for us for years too. Always crashes and fails w= ithin weeks of install. We've stuck to the PR4444 outputs that get cut down t= o H264 in QT. Got a decent clean clip and a compressed preview.

David Torno
Technical Director
O: 2= 13.739.2290
C: 818.391.6060
--------------------
http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com

Yes.. I know.. h.264 isn't a great f= ormat for mastering at all.. and I
should probably have some= other workflow.. but it doesn't really
matter in my setup..= my clients have always been happy with what I've
provided t= hem and I've never had a need for uncompressed masters,
etc.= .
= --Apple-Mail-FB6ECB0F-910F-4F7C-AE30-97331E65354E--