From: "Steve Oakley" Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5514207 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 06:08:37 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.254] (68-115-56-58.static.eucl.wi.charter.com [68.115.56.58]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MFN9w-1WvBVm0DX2-00EO5Q; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 00:08:35 -0400 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_45F397C3-154A-41F9-BCA3-097A595BC954" Message-Id: <57F0DBAC-8D0E-45FF-AD62-E43E0A261731@practicalillusions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Depreciated output formats gone completely in AE 2014 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 23:08:32 -0500 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:L6rsyaIg2urVdpQLURZHAzGkxz2UEPmycecAcxnnXIK kiFWtg5HsN5YdUswi/24tPrf9gROKwNN7mIZuODNB8aIfYWkxU OLiOepowqT1fuXHrjqbWeHu6UtkEpaRic7VZpI7ScvRi8xQ/sN cdxjzkkWjefAJkpHktAMb/qiGm7EnFcPPrEjAqdBmYanCXZt57 D3FTKg3vTDmWMaoPDnMN+u77uUSBtHBXEVXNwYRW+Kvvfzo6kz qRdM9d9zTVQI+LNfusDALxblxKgpdsSYYO1IIMFbRmqa3rkQpj nCXShlYmPcx0LXaG1MNbbYiakBPwm3G9hioiVPYEfjXKfXBqTw PbSPeDJJrOmy5fI737Ep64gNOt1Mo7kKozJwsJivmCjpNTxPKB UAn1cKjuha3xml5rRqE9THdHh8ipjwjyeM= --Apple-Mail=_45F397C3-154A-41F9-BCA3-097A595BC954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 to be a broken record, h.264 is NOT just web video. its capable of = iFrame, deep color and high bit rates. please see = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264 for a starter. then realize panasonic P2 cameras record AVCintra 100 and 200 mbit 10 = bit, basically equal to ProRes 422 and HQ. HDcam SR 440mbit is based on = h.264 its a perfectly good delivery format if you use the higher end specs S On Jun 26, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: > I will chime in that on some of my boxes I had stopped using AE for = H.264 due to crashes with export and started using AME and never had an = issue or crash. > =20 > The one downside to AME is not having an export history saved with the = project =96 not sure if that is even possible. > =20 > But h.264 as a final for clients? I can=92t imagine doing that. ProRes = 422 or Avid is about as uncompressed I would ever deliver. H.264 is just = a proof/web format as it just won=92t holdup to much after that. > =20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 > =20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > =20 > A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It = should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s = behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. > =96Stanley Kubrick > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]=20 > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:45 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] Depreciated output formats gone completely in AE = 2014 > =20 > I can vouch for this exact approach. Here=92s a sample from last = weekend, exported via AME using the Vimeo 1080p 29.97 preset. > =20 > https://vimeo.com/98827113 > =20 > Brian >=20 >=20 > You're asking for output directly from After Effects, but my answer is = to use the Vimeo encoding presets in Adobe Media Encoder. > =20 > Just render and export a losslessly encoded master from After Effects = into a watch folder that AME is monitoring, and let AME create the Vimeo = file. > =20 > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] > =20 > What is a better alternative than .MOV H.264 for optimal qualityute = for upload to Vimeo? > =20 > Requirements: 24 fps, 1080p, 44kHz Stereo, size < 200 Mb per 60 sec of = video, direct render from AE output. --Apple-Mail=_45F397C3-154A-41F9-BCA3-097A595BC954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 to be = a broken record, h.264 is NOT just web video. its capable of iFrame, = deep color and high bit rates. please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H= .264 for a starter.

then realize panasonic P2 = cameras record AVCintra 100 and 200 mbit 10 bit, basically equal to = ProRes 422 and HQ. HDcam SR 440mbit is based on = h.264

its a perfectly good delivery format if = you use the higher end = specs

S

On Jun 26, = 2014, at 2:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

I will chime in that on some of my boxes I had = stopped using AE for H.264 due to crashes with export and started using = AME and never had an issue or crash.
 
The one downside to AME = is not having an export history saved with the project =96 not sure if = that is even possible.
 
But h.264 as a final for = clients? I can=92t imagine doing that. ProRes 422 or Avid is about as = uncompressed I would ever deliver. H.264 is just a proof/web format as = it just won=92t holdup to much after that.
 
A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than = like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The = theme, what=92s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes = later.
=96Stanley = Kubrick
 
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 = 2:45 PM
To: After Effects Mail = List
Subject: Re: [AE] Depreciated output = formats gone completely in AE = 2014
 
I can = vouch for this exact approach. Here=92s a sample from last weekend, = exported via AME using the Vimeo 1080p 29.97 = preset.
 
 
Brian


You're asking for output directly = from After Effects, but my answer is to use the Vimeo encoding presets = in Adobe Media Encoder.
 
Just render and export a = losslessly encoded master from After Effects into a watch folder that = AME is monitoring, and let AME create the Vimeo = file.
 
 
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]
 
What is a better alternative than .MOV H.264 for optimal = qualityute for upload to Vimeo?
 
Requirements: 24 fps, 1080p, 44kHz Stereo, size < 200 Mb = per 60 sec of video, direct render from AE = output.

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