Communigate Pro AE-List@media-motion.tv Message 54445

> to be a broken record, h.264 is NOT just web video. its capable of iFrame, deep color and high bit rates. please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264 for a starter.

Not arguing there – but not aware of any Adobe or common NLE etc. encoders that support 10-bit iframe 444 H.264 and certainly not the deprecated AE format unless I was totally missing something.

But the larger issue here is that h.264 vs say ProRes 4444 is analogous to a DCDM vs a DCP in digital cinema. DCP is not your master, it’s your distribution master. It’s like keeping your audio masters at 320KB CBR MP3. Just not smart workflow/archiving in my view.

stephen van vuuren

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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [AE] Depreciated output formats gone completely in AE 2014

to be a broken record, h.264 is NOT just web video. its capable of iFrame, deep color and high bit rates. please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264 for a starter.

then realize panasonic P2 cameras record AVCintra 100 and 200 mbit 10 bit, basically equal to ProRes 422 and HQ. HDcam SR 440mbit is based on h.264

its a perfectly good delivery format if you use the higher end specs

On Jun 26, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I will chime in that on some of my boxes I had stopped using AE for H.264 due to crashes with export and started using AME and never had an issue or crash.

The one downside to AME is not having an export history saved with the project – not sure if that is even possible.

But h.264 as a final for clients? I can’t imagine doing that. ProRes 422 or Avid is about as uncompressed I would ever deliver. H.264 is just a proof/web format as it just won’t holdup to much after that.

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

http://www.insaturnsrings.com/

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

A film is – or should be – more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.

–Stanley Kubrick

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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [AE] Depreciated output formats gone completely in AE 2014

I can vouch for this exact approach. Here’s a sample from last weekend, exported via AME using the Vimeo 1080p 29.97 preset.

https://vimeo.com/98827113

Brian

You're asking for output directly from After Effects, but my answer is to use the Vimeo encoding presets in Adobe Media Encoder.

Just render and export a losslessly encoded master from After Effects into a watch folder that AME is monitoring, and let AME create the Vimeo file.

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What is a better alternative than .MOV H.264 for optimal qualityute for upload to Vimeo?

Requirements: 24 fps, 1080p, 44kHz Stereo, size < 200 Mb per 60 sec of video, direct render from AE output.