From: "Michael Powers" Received: from p02c11o141.mxlogic.net ([208.65.144.74] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5516050 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 17:26:03 +0200 Received: from unknown [216.57.150.10] (EHLO exchangecashub.crameronline.com) by p02c11o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.0.0-2) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 603d2b35.0.1869.00-304.5176.p02c11o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 01 Jul 2014 09:26:03 -0600 (MDT) X-MXL-Hash: 53b2d30b6f1995ce-5eed5f06802a8ae441d21d1758ebfe48ade9753f Received: from EXCHANGEMBX.cramerdom.com ([172.16.1.55]) by EXCHANGECasHub.cramerdom.com ([172.16.1.25]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:25:58 -0400 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with reply Thread-Topic: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with reply Thread-Index: AQHPlSRLj2hIZvuHk0qCXcl2pEqKhJuLVxJw Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 15:25:57 +0000 Message-ID: <8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A8636FB7@EXCHANGEMBX.cramerdom.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.10.1.139] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A8636FB7EXCHANGEMBXcram_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.1 cv=VJRTnr/X c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=92rrH11NjGMdhXfoADi2UA==] X-AnalysisOut: [:117 a=92rrH11NjGMdhXfoADi2UA==:17 a=AwZ4KAQMlCoA:10 a=fvH] X-AnalysisOut: [1djJbZqEA:10 a=O91693uk2i0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=G7-xRGy] X-AnalysisOut: [1AAAA:8 a=ERUe88dTAAAA:8 a=sQkoB04UAAAA:8 a=YlVTAMxIAAAA:8] X-AnalysisOut: [ a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=_t9A-ITGAAAA:8 a=GkHd5etSAAAA:20 a=rFK] X-AnalysisOut: [5BNXYZE6Rvz8osX4A:9 a=PHxDeo3ek_PhHBlp:21 a=fqcn8JY989T58g] X-AnalysisOut: [N6:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=UP2G0JzZ8X8A:10 a=cqijc7X2V5QA:1] X-AnalysisOut: [0 a=_6nHiDyIYMeXP2Mx1KQA:9 a=AhEUVMCprd26MJ6Q:21 a=E9C3C-d] X-AnalysisOut: [Gj_R_eYU9:21 a=ECsjUjXkfoc9CqCh:21 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZ] X-AnalysisOut: [eC7Yk6K0A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=tXsnliw] X-AnalysisOut: [V7b4A:10] X-Spam: [F=0.5000000000; CM=0.500; MH=0.500(2014070111); S=0.200(2014051901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [216.57.150.10] --_000_8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A8636FB7EXCHANGEMBXcram_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LOL. Generally we get request like this in-house - from Account Execs... From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:02 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with reply LOL that's really funny I think the job ad is just as funny as the reply. Thanks for sharing Chris. Anders From: Chris Zwar Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:48 AM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with reply Sorry for the OT but this job ad from Craigslist has been generating equal = amounts of laughter and despair on a local jobs forum: http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html While depressing ads like this are unfortunately not uncommon, at least one= local guy here has gone to commendable efforts with his application, inclu= ding a demo video! On 1 Jul 2014, at 1:15 pm, stib > wrote: I want to apply for the job. Now first off - you do realise that Rise of th= e Guardians cost $62,285 per frame, don't you? But don't worry, I can get y= ou the same quality per frame at a budget you can afford. It's simple: I ma= ke something of the same quality, but just a lot smaller. If you do the maths, a budget of $4000 divided by 4320 frames (for you I gi= ve a discount, I'll call it 4000 frames) comes out to a dollar per frame. N= ow I'm assuming that the master to RotG was 4096 pixels =D7 2160 digital ci= nema print which means 8847360 pixels per frame. So $1 gets you 8847360 / 6= 2285 =3D 142 pixels, and again I'll give you a discount and round it up to = a 12 x12 pixel square. You can't get fairer than that. Real Dreamworks quality at a price you can = afford! Here's a sample of what you could expect for your budget (and just to sweet= en the deal for you I'll throw in sound recording, music and mixing for not= hing, just because I really want to work with a visionary like you). http://bit.ly/1k8uxmO Note that the web player does stretch it out to fit in their frame, and com= press it. The version you get will have full 12x12px resolution uncompresse= d 10-bit video and will be crystal clear and sharp. Since you won't be storyboarding it we can get moving straight away. You wo= n't want to see any character design, art direction or animation tests etc,= that's all just a waste of time. I can see you're a busy man, so I'll just= do the whole thing, render it, and have it ready to go, without all that t= o-and fro that gets in the way and drives up costs. Once you pay I'll send = you a link to where you can download the whole completed thing, ready to go= . It saves you the worry and makes life simpler for me. I can get moving on= this at any time, and can have it done in a week, tops. Just paypal me the= money and I'll send you a link. Of course you can trust me, I trust you do= n't I? -stib When our producers start getting unreasonable, we've starting saying 'we ca= n do it, but it will be 12 pixels square...' -Chris --_000_8C6FE228180FE143B942B993AE2E1C74A8636FB7EXCHANGEMBXcram_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LOL. Generally we get req= uest like this in-house – from Account Execs…=

 

From: After Ef= fects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 8:02 AM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with reply

 

LOL that’s really funny I think the job a= d is just as funny as the reply.

 

Thanks for sharing Chris.

 

Anders

 

 

From: Chris Zwar

Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:4= 8 AM

Subject: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for a= n animator, with reply

 

Sorry for the OT but this job ad from Craigslis= t has been generating equal amounts of laughter and despair on a local jobs= forum:

 

 

While depressing ads like this are unfortunatel= y not uncommon, at least one local guy here has gone to commendable efforts= with his application, including a demo video!

 

On 1 Jul 2014, at 1:15 pm, stib <<= span style=3D"font-family:"&apos","serif";color:bla= ck">stib@pureandapplied.com.au> wrote:

I want to apply for the job. Now first off - you do realise that Rise o= f the Guardians cost $62,285 per frame, don't you? But don't worry, I can get you the same quality per frame at a budget you can afford= . It's simple: I make something of the same quality, but just a lot smaller= .
If you do the maths, a budget of $4000 divided by 4320 frames (for you I gi= ve a discount, I'll call it 4000 frames) comes out to a dollar per frame. N= ow I'm assuming that the master to RotG was 4096 pixels =D7 2160 digital ci= nema print which means 8847360 pixels per frame. So $1 gets you 8847360 / 62285 =3D 142 pixels, and again I'll g= ive you a discount and round it up to a 12 x12 pixel square.
You can't get fairer than that. Real Dreamworks quality at a price you can = afford!

Here's a sample of what you could expect for your budget (and just to s= weeten the deal for you I'll throw in sound recording, music and mixing for nothing, just because I really want to work with a visionar= y like you).

Note that the web player does stretch it out to fit in their frame, and= compress it. The version you get will have full 12x12px resolution uncompressed 10-bit video and will be crystal clear and sharp.<= /span>

Since you won't be storyboarding it we can get moving straight away. Yo= u won't want to see any character design, art direction or animation tests etc, that's all just a waste of time. I can see you're a b= usy man, so I'll just do the whole thing, render it, and have it ready to g= o, without all that to-and fro that gets in the way and drives up costs. On= ce you pay I'll send you a link to where you can download the whole completed thing, ready to go. It saves= you the worry and makes life simpler for me. I can get moving on this at a= ny time, and can have it done in a week, tops. Just paypal me the money and= I'll send you a link. Of course you can trust me, I trust you don't I?

-stib

 

 

When our producers start = getting unreasonable, we've starting saying 'we can do it, but it will be 1= 2 pixels square…'

 

 

-Chris

 

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