From: "David Torno" Received: from atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.46] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5516048 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 17:27:43 +0200 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.210]) by atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s61FRfIj027989 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:27:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 14796 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jul 2014 15:27:41 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 108.184.252.87 X-Authenticated-UID: torno@sydefxink.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (torno@sydefxink.com@108.184.252.87) by 0 with ESMTPA; 1 Jul 2014 15:27:41 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C41BEAA4-808D-4931-A649-C42897386433 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with reply Message-Id: <1BD91C0D-A0AA-4CC1-B3D8-BC14E7943BF9@sydefxink.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:27:40 -0700 References: In-Reply-To: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11B651) --Apple-Mail-C41BEAA4-808D-4931-A649-C42897386433 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love people who stand up and point out the idiocy of this industry so crea= tively. Lol David Torno Technical Director http://www.ghosttownmedia.com O: 213.739.2290 C: 818.391.6060 -------------------- http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" -Charles Field > On Jul 1, 2014, at 5:02 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" w= rote: >=20 > LOL that=E2=80=99s really funny I think the job ad is just as funny as the= reply. > =20 > Thanks for sharing Chris. > =20 > Anders > =20 > =20 > From: Chris Zwar > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:48 AM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with reply > =20 > Sorry for the OT but this job ad from Craigslist has been generating equal= amounts of laughter and despair on a local jobs forum: > =20 > http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html > =20 > While depressing ads like this are unfortunately not uncommon, at least on= e local guy here has gone to commendable efforts with his application, inclu= ding a demo video! > =20 > On 1 Jul 2014, at 1:15 pm, stib wrote: > I want to apply for the job. Now first off - you do realise that Rise of t= he Guardians cost $62,285 per frame, don't you? But don't worry, I can get y= ou the same quality per frame at a budget you can afford. It's simple: I mak= e something of the same quality, but just a lot smaller. > If you do the maths, a budget of $4000 divided by 4320 frames (for you I g= ive a discount, I'll call it 4000 frames) comes out to a dollar per frame. N= ow I'm assuming that the master to RotG was 4096 pixels =C3=97 2160 digital c= inema print which means 8847360 pixels per frame. So $1 gets you 8847360 / 6= 2285 =3D 142 pixels, and again I'll give you a discount and round it up to a= 12 x12 pixel square. > You can't get fairer than that. Real Dreamworks quality at a price you can= afford! >=20 > Here's a sample of what you could expect for your budget (and just to swee= ten the deal for you I'll throw in sound recording, music and mixing for not= hing, just because I really want to work with a visionary like you). >=20 > http://bit.ly/1k8uxmO >=20 > Note that the web player does stretch it out to fit in their frame, and co= mpress it. The version you get will have full 12x12px resolution uncompresse= d 10-bit video and will be crystal clear and sharp. >=20 > Since you won't be storyboarding it we can get moving straight away. You w= on't want to see any character design, art direction or animation tests etc,= that's all just a waste of time. I can see you're a busy man, so I'll just d= o the whole thing, render it, and have it ready to go, without all that to-a= nd fro that gets in the way and drives up costs. Once you pay I'll send you a= link to where you can download the whole completed thing, ready to go. It s= aves you the worry and makes life simpler for me. I can get moving on this a= t any time, and can have it done in a week, tops. Just paypal me the money a= nd I'll send you a link. Of course you can trust me, I trust you don't I? >=20 > -stib >=20 >=20 > When our producers start getting unreasonable, we've starting saying 'we c= an do it, but it will be 12 pixels square=E2=80=A6' >=20 >=20 > -Chris > =20 --Apple-Mail-C41BEAA4-808D-4931-A649-C42897386433 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I love people who stand up and point o= ut the idiocy of this industry so creatively. Lol

David Torno
Tec= hnical Director
O: 213.739.2290
C: 818.391.606= 0
--------------------

"The most u= seless day is that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles Field

On Jul 1, 2014,= at 5:02 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

LOL that=E2=80=99s really funny I think the job ad is just as funny as t= he=20 reply.
 
Thanks for sharing Chris.
 
Anders
 
 
From: Chris Zwar
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:48 AM
Subject: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with=20 reply
 
Sorry=20 for the OT but this job ad from Craigslist has been generating equal amounts= of=20 laughter and despair on a local jobs forum:=20
 
 
While depressing ads like this are unfortunately not uncommon, at least= one=20 local guy here has gone to commendable efforts with his application, includi= ng a=20 demo video!
 
On 1 Jul 2014, at= 1:15=20 pm, stib <stib@pureandapplied.com.au> wrote:
I= want=20 to apply for the job. Now first off - you do realise that Rise of the=20 Guardians cost $62,285 per frame, don't you? But don't worry, I can get yo= u=20 the same quality per frame at a budget you can afford. It's simple: I make= =20 something of the same quality, but just a lot smaller.
If you do the ma= ths,=20 a budget of $4000 divided by 4320 frames (for you I give a discount, I'll c= all=20 it 4000 frames) comes out to a dollar per frame. Now I'm assuming that the= =20 master to RotG was 4096 pixels =C3=97 2160 digital cinema print which mean= s 8847360=20 pixels per frame. So $1 gets you 8847360 / 62285 =3D 142 pixels, and again= I'll=20 give you a discount and round it up to a 12 x12 pixel square.
You can't= get=20 fairer than that. Real Dreamworks quality at a price you can=20 afford!

H= ere's=20 a sample of what you could expect for your budget (and just to sweeten the= =20 deal for you I'll throw in sound recording, music and mixing for nothing, j= ust=20 because I really want to work with a visionary like you).

<= a href=3D"http://bit.ly/1k8uxmO" target=3D"_blank">http://bit.ly/1k8uxmO=

N= ote=20 that the web player does stretch it out to fit in their frame, and compres= s=20 it. The version you get will have full 12x12px resolution uncompressed 10-= bit=20 video and will be crystal clear and sharp.

S= ince=20 you won't be storyboarding it we can get moving straight away. You won't w= ant=20 to see any character design, art direction or animation tests etc, that's a= ll=20 just a waste of time. I can see you're a busy man, so I'll just do the who= le=20 thing, render it, and have it ready to go, without all that to-and fro tha= t=20 gets in the way and drives up costs. Once you pay I'll send you a link to=20= where you can download the whole completed thing, ready to go. It saves yo= u=20 the worry and makes life simpler for me. I can get moving on this at any t= ime,=20 and can have it done in a week, tops. Just paypal me the money and I'll se= nd=20 you a link. Of course you can trust me, I trust you don't I?

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-= stib
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<= span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: helvetica; FONT-SIZE: medium">When our producers s= tart=20 getting unreasonable, we've starting saying 'we can do it, but it will be 1= 2=20 pixels square=E2=80=A6'
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<= span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: helvetica; FONT-SIZE: medium">-Chris
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