From: "John Veeneman" Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.17] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5516063 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 17:35:48 +0200 Received: from johns-imac.home ([unknown] [72.91.242.40]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N8100DXUHZIWI40@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:35:43 -0500 (CDT) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9B61A791-65BC-486D-A8E5-D32B387AC6E1" Message-id: <13D0AC51-7CA1-454D-9AA8-8FD5C7D6945E@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with reply Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 11:35:42 -0400 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) --Apple-Mail=_9B61A791-65BC-486D-A8E5-D32B387AC6E1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 It's not just craigslist anymore, though. Sites like fiverr and others = make me weep for the industry.=20 = http://www.fiverr.com/aaronarnold/professionally-create-your-after-effects= -project?context=3Dold.cat_20.subcat_99&context_type=3Drating#1 Note that I'm not really picking on this one guy; I just picked his ad = at random. The site is chock full of editors, animators, video guys, = software writers...... all who will work for $5! -- john On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:27 AM, David Torno = wrote: > I love people who stand up and point out the idiocy of this industry = so creatively. Lol >=20 > David Torno > Technical Director > http://www.ghosttownmedia.com > O: 213.739.2290 > C: 818.391.6060 > -------------------- > http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com >=20 > "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" > -Charles Field >=20 > On Jul 1, 2014, at 5:02 AM, "Anders Sundstedt" = wrote: >=20 >> LOL that=92s really funny I think the job ad is just as funny as the = reply. >> =20 >> Thanks for sharing Chris. >> =20 >> Anders >> =20 >> =20 >> From: Chris Zwar >> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:48 AM >> To: After Effects Mail List >> Subject: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with reply >> =20 >> Sorry for the OT but this job ad from Craigslist has been generating = equal amounts of laughter and despair on a local jobs forum: >> =20 >> http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cpg/4529563953.html >> =20 >> While depressing ads like this are unfortunately not uncommon, at = least one local guy here has gone to commendable efforts with his = application, including a demo video! >> =20 >> On 1 Jul 2014, at 1:15 pm, stib wrote: >> I want to apply for the job. Now first off - you do realise that Rise = of the Guardians cost $62,285 per frame, don't you? But don't worry, I = can get you the same quality per frame at a budget you can afford. It's = simple: I make something of the same quality, but just a lot smaller. >> If you do the maths, a budget of $4000 divided by 4320 frames (for = you I give a discount, I'll call it 4000 frames) comes out to a dollar = per frame. Now I'm assuming that the master to RotG was 4096 pixels =D7 = 2160 digital cinema print which means 8847360 pixels per frame. So $1 = gets you 8847360 / 62285 =3D 142 pixels, and again I'll give you a = discount and round it up to a 12 x12 pixel square. >> You can't get fairer than that. Real Dreamworks quality at a price = you can afford! >>=20 >> Here's a sample of what you could expect for your budget (and just to = sweeten the deal for you I'll throw in sound recording, music and mixing = for nothing, just because I really want to work with a visionary like = you). >>=20 >> http://bit.ly/1k8uxmO >>=20 >> Note that the web player does stretch it out to fit in their frame, = and compress it. The version you get will have full 12x12px resolution = uncompressed 10-bit video and will be crystal clear and sharp. >>=20 >> Since you won't be storyboarding it we can get moving straight away. = You won't want to see any character design, art direction or animation = tests etc, that's all just a waste of time. I can see you're a busy man, = so I'll just do the whole thing, render it, and have it ready to go, = without all that to-and fro that gets in the way and drives up costs. = Once you pay I'll send you a link to where you can download the whole = completed thing, ready to go. It saves you the worry and makes life = simpler for me. I can get moving on this at any time, and can have it = done in a week, tops. Just paypal me the money and I'll send you a link. = Of course you can trust me, I trust you don't I? >>=20 >> -stib >>=20 >>=20 >> When our producers start getting unreasonable, we've starting saying = 'we can do it, but it will be 12 pixels square=85' >>=20 >>=20 >> -Chris >> =20 --Apple-Mail=_9B61A791-65BC-486D-A8E5-D32B387AC6E1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 It's = not just craigslist anymore, though. Sites like fiverr and others make = me weep for the industry. 


Note that I'm not really picking on this one = guy; I just picked his ad at random. The site is chock full of editors, = animators, video guys, software writers...... all who will work for = $5!

--
john


On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:27 AM, David Torno = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

I love people who stand up and = point out the idiocy of this industry so creatively. Lol

David = Torno
Technical Director
http://www.ghosttownmedia.com<= /div>
O: 213.739.2290
C: = 818.391.6060
--------------------
http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com<= /div>

"The most useless day is that in which we do = not laugh"
-Charles = Field

On Jul 1, 2014, at 5:02 AM, "Anders = Sundstedt" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

LOL that=92s really funny I think the job ad is just as funny as = the=20 reply.
 
Thanks for sharing Chris.
 
Anders
 
 
From: Chris Zwar
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 10:48 AM
Subject: [AE] [OT] a WTF ad for an animator, with=20 reply
 
Sorry=20 for the OT but this job ad from Craigslist has been generating equal = amounts of=20 laughter and despair on a local jobs forum:=20
 
 
While depressing ads like this are unfortunately not uncommon, at = least one=20 local guy here has gone to commendable efforts with his application, = including a=20 demo video!
 
On 1 Jul = 2014, at 1:15=20 pm, stib <stib@pureandapplied.com.au<= span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: calibri; FONT-SIZE: 16px">> = wrote:
I want=20 to apply for the job. Now first off - you do realise that Rise of the=20= Guardians cost $62,285 per frame, don't you? But don't worry, I can = get you=20 the same quality per frame at a budget you can afford. It's simple: I = make=20 something of the same quality, but just a lot smaller.
If you do = the maths,=20 a budget of $4000 divided by 4320 frames (for you I give a discount, = I'll call=20 it 4000 frames) comes out to a dollar per frame. Now I'm assuming that = the=20 master to RotG was 4096 pixels =D7 2160 digital cinema print which = means 8847360=20 pixels per frame. So $1 gets you 8847360 / 62285 =3D 142 pixels, and = again I'll=20 give you a discount and round it up to a 12 x12 pixel square.
You = can't get=20 fairer than that. Real Dreamworks quality at a price you can=20 afford!

Here's=20 a sample of what you could expect for your budget (and just to sweeten = the=20 deal for you I'll throw in sound recording, music and mixing for = nothing, just=20 because I really want to work with a visionary like = you).

Note=20 that the web player does stretch it out to fit in their frame, and = compress=20 it. The version you get will have full 12x12px resolution uncompressed = 10-bit=20 video and will be crystal clear and sharp.

Since=20 you won't be storyboarding it we can get moving straight away. You = won't want=20 to see any character design, art direction or animation tests etc, = that's all=20 just a waste of time. I can see you're a busy man, so I'll just do the = whole=20 thing, render it, and have it ready to go, without all that to-and fro = that=20 gets in the way and drives up costs. Once you pay I'll send you a link = to=20 where you can download the whole completed thing, ready to go. It = saves you=20 the worry and makes life simpler for me. I can get moving on this at = any time,=20 and can have it done in a week, tops. Just paypal me the money and = I'll send=20 you a link. Of course you can trust me, I trust you don't = I?

-stib


When our = producers start=20 getting unreasonable, we've starting saying 'we can do it, but it will = be 12=20 pixels square=85'


-Chris
 

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