From: "Steve Oakley" Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.194] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5522788 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 05:16:09 +0200 Received: from [10.1.1.102] (75-135-165-0.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com [75.135.165.0]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LbdtT-1WKmr602VX-00kWHO; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:16:08 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Lesson learned In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 22:16:06 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <53C98ED9-FC70-449B-86DD-F2C44101F1CA@practicalillusions.com> References: To: After Effects Mail List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:Tx8Opl/tqCDsw5YzpRsnzN3juREq9X2x8eG5iZ8NPgg 7Beq5XjWqpHEPYqS90j8B6A4ULQqWnhWuwGJEY7iX1sJmpOmM9 3x+5/rE2kLj7ZHki/qwF9uL5tDylDzs5/7xJSbcGJajbjbbQAc XZW8O+Xk59t8whNEGHWa6/h4QOa7UUL20H6fCetKZfUU+Jn+dM jVHm20wvbPIgTrXPM28wChYyxac/azPjdfmUHocKDeHulR/7wM YYsXiiq0E9Q6uuQ+gA0aNfI2sB3J6wTEobsO2CQ3E76dZGc4Tl JY0W9EQtA43mz8pXY7IYCvKux34Eqs8sX8ayGd3Oct9RyE3dhc Z7obVwKI4wgWH+ETexOXcuJBxKscaxGpzgzN4XkaysE0EZ7q1e 9etqZ1eUXFh8l9HKp6oSn41364XRSonozk= one quick way to see if your ram is good is to open about this mac and = see if the total RAM is whats installed. in the case of the failing iRAM = modules they fail during start up self test. so if you have 16gb but = about this mac shows 12gb, go to more info in that panel, memory and = look at what slots have been disabled. sorry to say checking avail ram = on my tower is a once a month thing as I've replace 4 of 8 modules so = far. iRAM can not be contacted. I even tried calling them and going thru = every ext listed to no avail. a little google and a little terminal can go a long way towards finding = & fixing these things :) S On Jul 9, 2014, at 9:50 PM, Robert W. Walker = wrote: > Console more or less keeps a running log in real time of all the > processes on your Mac. Each event is time-stamped. In my case I = noted > several "disk 6s3 i/o error" entries, along with reams of other code I > do not understand at all. I checked Disk Utility for clues but it = does > not show the device ID of the drives, just what you named them so I = made > the (incorrect) assumption "disk 6s3" was my boot drive. Eventually I > discovered that you can open Terminal, type "diskutil list" and it = will > return a detailed list of device ID's as well as their "names." Aha.=20= > "Device disk 6" was that faulty Firewire drive. >=20 > By the way, along the way I bought (again) Disk Warrior which was no > help at all, booted into Safe Mode and ran the RAM hardware test > overnight, bought MORE RAM in case the whole lot was failing, and = backed > up then wiped clean an SSD for the clean installation of the OS. It = was > an expensive and time-consuming experience but I learned a lot. >=20 > I have always shied away from Terminal; and never used Console in my > life before a couple of weeks ago. But it turns out that with some > digging around online you can find a load of useful troubleshooting > techniques that do not put your machine in further harm's way. >=20 > Robert W. Walker > Los Angeles CA USA >=20 >=20 >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [AE] Lesson learned >> From: "Allen Ellis" >> Date: Wed, July 09, 2014 10:20 pm >> To: "After Effects Mail List" >>=20 >>=20 >> Wow. Thanks for the story. Any more insight into how you used the = console >> to trace the problem to the disk i/o error? Sounds intriguing. >>=20 >> --Allen >>=20 >>=20 >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Robert W. Walker = >> wrote: >>=20 >>> About three weeks ago I went through a major day-and-a-half battle = to >>> get a Mac Pro 5,1 on OS 10.9.2 to behave. I was getting bizarre = Finder >>> crashes, infinite beachballs when trying to import any element at = all >>> into AE, even Disk Utility freezing up. I did a major update to my >>> backups, did a clean install of Mavericks and reinstalled all apps = and >>> plugins one by one. That took most of a day. >>>=20 >>> However the machine was still intermittently unusable, even to the = point >>> of refusing to Shut Down properly. Next thought was "bad RAM." I >>> started removing and swapping RAM sticks until I narrowed it down to = the >>> one that seemed to be the culprit. Bam. Looking good again. >>>=20 >>> Until today when the problem recurred. Long story short, through = Console >>> I traced the problem to a disk i/o error on an external Firewire = drive. >>> Console is pretty great. I took the drive off-line and everything = was >>> back to normal. >>>=20 >>> Huh. Machines. >>>=20 >>> I learned that many symptoms can be caused by many things, not = always >>> the most "logical" or the first thing that comes to mind. >>>=20 >>> Robert W. Walker >>> Los Angeles CA USA >>>=20 >>> +---End of message---+ >>> To unsubscribe send any message to >>>=20 >=20 > +---End of message---+ > To unsubscribe send any message to