From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com ([209.85.223.180] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5523135 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:46:52 +0200 Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id at20so1059791iec.11 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 07:46:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=/wCZXgzB+hzOKHWDW7Yu/J1ilPuEzu93oFEvqqjf3/8=; b=fe1GAsetnccTshBmvifzY08TxtpDlq/LVRT3OtvRPFatLVjVIHvweKG6e1NxUA7+4x osD17wQoE0zBgYSo9SedyioNlS3UlOagLsRUHa3Hbx4hEdwSGpZ0M81trK11l25nvNtU z4vCZVpK30XSIQpMWLaIK7PZVaSVIY1P++8uC0KHmdwh/5X6p+iRvf+SU4tB0tHFX+vP 2h97qTUj8LkxO/YDibJIRnDpjw0sKjRDTeexya+ruDp9ya9dNBkQRjcOLv5PY0ZFu1wV bvp5+0lMelWqj471gekMYL0+vHMVsb6kvhJEMaC/KW+zeyyT0aJAxMJS5TyRbopVar6a JghQ== X-Received: by 10.50.92.101 with SMTP id cl5mr22600169igb.2.1405003611549; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 07:46:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.33.7 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 07:46:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 10:46:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Redecorating an Office To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b10cfed2cb5cb04fdd7e511 --047d7b10cfed2cb5cb04fdd7e511 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Greg, In these couple shots, there are also a lot of back and forth and different angles to ensure that whatever changes are made, make it across all the shots. Add in to that some serious blown out white in a doorway and we have the recipe for a mess. I know they originally wanted all the wall colors changed and it just wont work. They are white, blown out in some cases, and a roto scoping nightmare. At least outside what I can do anyway. When you say your changes weren't approved with stuff on walls and tables...you mean, that was not considered "enough change"? Eric On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Greg Balint wrote: > I had something very similar happen on a movie VFX project. The images on > the walls and a few other things on tables and stuff weren't approved. > > For wall art, just go find something random on morguefile.com or flickr > under creative commons on the advanced search. Look up "still life" and > then run a few PS filters on em to make them look like wall art. > > Other stuff you could just remove or add new items overlaying. > > Remove windows or columns by cloning other pieces of walls over them and > stuff. They can't prove it's a location if the windows aren't even there in > the architecture. > > Maybe even roto out shots and replace with CC licensed shots of a > different office blurred out to simulate rack focus? > > Ultimately, this should probably be on the clients side of changes to > make. If they shot on the wrong location, they should have idea of what > needs to be changed to make it right for them. Ask if picture changes and > curtain color changes are enough. Sounds like it wouldn't be though. > > ///Greg Balint > //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer > /321.514.4839 > delRAZOR.com/ > > On Jul 10, 2014 8:58 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" > wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I have an interesting few shots for this movie that I've been doing VFX >> on. They used an office for a shot and afterward realized that they never >> received the approval for the location. So now, they are asking me to >> basically change it up to make it look different. Now, the shots contain >> multiple angles to deal with and I am thinking of things like changing out >> the existing pictures on the walls and maybe some curtain color changes, >> etc. I have a couple questions that maybe some experienced folks here >> might be able to help me with: >> >> 1. What really constitutes enough change on a location to call it >> "legal" I guess? >> >> 2. In one picture, I just used a Van Gogh (Starry Night) as a >> replacement. I chose that because of the age and figured that is public >> domain. Any knowledge on that? >> >> 3. Any advice from the group here on how to proceed? >> >> Appreciate all. >> >> Eric >> >> >> -- >> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >> >> *www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com * >> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> * >> >> > -- *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347* *www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com * *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --047d7b10cfed2cb5cb04fdd7e511 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Greg,
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In these coup= le shots, there are also a lot of back and forth and different angles to en= sure that whatever changes are made, make it across all the shots.=C2=A0 Ad= d in to that some serious blown out white in a doorway and we have the reci= pe for a mess.
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I know they originally wanted all the wall colors cha= nged and=C2=A0it just wont work.=C2=A0 They are white, blown out in some ca= ses, and a roto scoping nightmare.=C2=A0 At least outside what I can do any= way.
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When you say your changes weren't approved with stuff on walls and= tables...you mean, that was not considered "enough change"?
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Eric


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Greg Balint <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:

I had something very similar happen on a movie VFX project. = The images on the walls and a few other things on tables and stuff weren= 9;t approved.

For wall art, just go find something random on morguefile.com or flickr under c= reative commons on the advanced search. Look up "still life" and = then run a few PS filters on em to make them look like wall art.

Other stuff you could just remove or add new items overlayin= g.

Remove windows or columns by cloning other pieces of walls o= ver them and stuff. They can't prove it's a location if the windows= aren't even there in the architecture.

Maybe even roto out shots and replace with CC licensed shots= of a different office blurred out to simulate rack focus?

Ultimately, this should probably be on the clients side of c= hanges to make. If they shot on the wrong location, they should have idea o= f what needs to be changed to make it right for them.=C2=A0 Ask if picture = changes and curtain color changes are enough. Sounds like it wouldn't b= e though.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.= 514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
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On Jul 10, 2014 8:58 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk&= quot; <AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hello all,
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I have an inter= esting few shots for this movie=C2=A0that I've been doing VFX on.=C2=A0= They used an office for a shot and afterward realized that they never rece= ived the approval for the location.=C2=A0 So now, they are asking me to bas= ically change it up to make it look different.=C2=A0 Now, the shots contain= multiple angles to deal with and I am thinking of things like changing out= the existing pictures on the walls and maybe some curtain color changes, e= tc.=C2=A0 I have a couple questions that maybe some experienced folks here = might be able to help me with:
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1.=C2=A0 What really constitutes enough change on a l= ocation to call it "legal" I guess?
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2.= =C2=A0 In one picture, I just used a Van Gogh (Starry Night) as a replaceme= nt.=C2=A0 I chose that because of the age and figured that is public domain= .=C2=A0 Any knowledge on that?
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3.=C2=A0 Any advice from the group here on how to pro= ceed?
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Appreciate all.
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Eric


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