From: "Greg Balint" Received: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.216.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5523202 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:03:55 +0200 Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id i8so7968727qcq.20 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:03:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=930K15dDo/VBJqykYiXYp8jjDIS8+H3ibumItGOlq+E=; b=AiJYbaJGXjl0znRPPwuDCEmD3A8PVOmXHJUEKXTztv3Snh29dU+IcZ1IXd6SCb4Bmt ZesT0HVi+oBSH9Oa+D83DuReqLqA69JAPh/CHEB32sroXD6JAzusYda3bP83mL3IMSuO 87/wN3IphO8Z6TlszGPvvaTQ68nb2/5oKvulfY0pjTiE90lX0hl8eH9wwwv1i3EsgXV2 jEnqYGUvtV6WBn5zyi1PKD1WT/PW+Jg0Xp0yyxZiw1NyGWukZLhAP8BzFtUmuqfrKorW Ok7bFW0wKnsn+A3axj5xNJHtztjmN3iC1X+8BoHygUA1L7f4j/sXTf4txo0e0VUjRVu+ JtOQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.26.69 with SMTP id 63mr24776049qgu.1.1405008232503; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.47.193 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.47.193 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:03:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:03:52 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Redecorating an Office To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c12dee9ae42204fdd8f850 --001a11c12dee9ae42204fdd8f850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I meant when they shot they had art on the walls that they would need to obtain copyright to show so they asked to swap it out. ///Greg Balint //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer /321.514.4839 delRAZOR.com/ On Jul 10, 2014 10:47 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" wrote: > Thanks Greg, > > In these couple shots, there are also a lot of back and forth and > different angles to ensure that whatever changes are made, make it across > all the shots. Add in to that some serious blown out white in a doorway > and we have the recipe for a mess. > > I know they originally wanted all the wall colors changed and it just wont > work. They are white, blown out in some cases, and a roto scoping > nightmare. At least outside what I can do anyway. > > When you say your changes weren't approved with stuff on walls and > tables...you mean, that was not considered "enough change"? > > Eric > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Greg Balint > wrote: > >> I had something very similar happen on a movie VFX project. The images on >> the walls and a few other things on tables and stuff weren't approved. >> >> For wall art, just go find something random on morguefile.com or flickr >> under creative commons on the advanced search. Look up "still life" and >> then run a few PS filters on em to make them look like wall art. >> >> Other stuff you could just remove or add new items overlaying. >> >> Remove windows or columns by cloning other pieces of walls over them and >> stuff. They can't prove it's a location if the windows aren't even there in >> the architecture. >> >> Maybe even roto out shots and replace with CC licensed shots of a >> different office blurred out to simulate rack focus? >> >> Ultimately, this should probably be on the clients side of changes to >> make. If they shot on the wrong location, they should have idea of what >> needs to be changed to make it right for them. Ask if picture changes and >> curtain color changes are enough. Sounds like it wouldn't be though. >> >> ///Greg Balint >> //Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer >> /321.514.4839 >> delRAZOR.com/ >> >> On Jul 10, 2014 8:58 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" >> wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I have an interesting few shots for this movie that I've been doing VFX >>> on. They used an office for a shot and afterward realized that they never >>> received the approval for the location. So now, they are asking me to >>> basically change it up to make it look different. Now, the shots contain >>> multiple angles to deal with and I am thinking of things like changing out >>> the existing pictures on the walls and maybe some curtain color changes, >>> etc. I have a couple questions that maybe some experienced folks here >>> might be able to help me with: >>> >>> 1. What really constitutes enough change on a location to call it >>> "legal" I guess? >>> >>> 2. In one picture, I just used a Van Gogh (Starry Night) as a >>> replacement. I chose that because of the age and figured that is public >>> domain. Any knowledge on that? >>> >>> 3. Any advice from the group here on how to proceed? >>> >>> Appreciate all. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>> >>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>> kirkproductions@gmail.com * >>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>> * >>> >>> >> > > > -- > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* > > *www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > * > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > * > > --001a11c12dee9ae42204fdd8f850 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I meant when they shot they had art on the walls that they w= ould need to obtain copyright to show so they asked to swap it out.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
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On Jul 10, 2014 10:47 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk= " <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:
Thanks Greg,
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In these coup= le shots, there are also a lot of back and forth and different angles to en= sure that whatever changes are made, make it across all the shots.=C2=A0 Ad= d in to that some serious blown out white in a doorway and we have the reci= pe for a mess.
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I know they originally wanted all the wall colors cha= nged and=C2=A0it just wont work.=C2=A0 They are white, blown out in some ca= ses, and a roto scoping nightmare.=C2=A0 At least outside what I can do any= way.
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When you say your changes weren't approved with stuff on walls and= tables...you mean, that was not considered "enough change"?
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Eric


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote"> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Greg Balint <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:

I had something very similar happen on a movie VFX project. = The images on the walls and a few other things on tables and stuff weren= 9;t approved.

For wall art, just go find something random on morguefile.com or flickr under c= reative commons on the advanced search. Look up "still life" and = then run a few PS filters on em to make them look like wall art.

Other stuff you could just remove or add new items overlayin= g.

Remove windows or columns by cloning other pieces of walls o= ver them and stuff. They can't prove it's a location if the windows= aren't even there in the architecture.

Maybe even roto out shots and replace with CC licensed shots= of a different office blurred out to simulate rack focus?

Ultimately, this should probably be on the clients side of c= hanges to make. If they shot on the wrong location, they should have idea o= f what needs to be changed to make it right for them.=C2=A0 Ask if picture = changes and curtain color changes are enough. Sounds like it wouldn't b= e though.

///Greg Balint
//Art Director / Motion Graphics Designer
/321.= 514.4839
delRAZOR.com/
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On Jul 10, 2014 8:58 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk&= quot; <AE-L= ist@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hello all,
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I have an inter= esting few shots for this movie=C2=A0that I've been doing VFX on.=C2=A0= They used an office for a shot and afterward realized that they never rece= ived the approval for the location.=C2=A0 So now, they are asking me to bas= ically change it up to make it look different.=C2=A0 Now, the shots contain= multiple angles to deal with and I am thinking of things like changing out= the existing pictures on the walls and maybe some curtain color changes, e= tc.=C2=A0 I have a couple questions that maybe some experienced folks here = might be able to help me with:
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1.=C2=A0 What really constitutes enough change on a l= ocation to call it "legal" I guess?
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2.= =C2=A0 In one picture, I just used a Van Gogh (Starry Night) as a replaceme= nt.=C2=A0 I chose that because of the age and figured that is public domain= .=C2=A0 Any knowledge on that?
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3.=C2=A0 Any advice from the group here on how to pro= ceed?
=C2=A0
Appreciate all.
=C2=A0
Eric


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