From: "Phil Bearman" Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com ([209.85.215.53] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5523565 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:43:54 +0200 Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id b8so606548lan.26 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 01:43:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1CFBMGV2oXwtqLm5/qAwpBsaUfo1FiyyLLslHn9Om8U=; b=JW7sf1fBaGV9lmW1GHciFCvBmObwkVhEHijBkysS7X3cwFYMvZZsUheFDVq6kk5TF8 7t4qtj/dKN6wgQXEOOTIhfCnUmaPkHmqj0PWhOeM0zsbdmSpZo5dekS1zVKSJM4Z61Zs GSJbgbbhAIQV2f/WKfO0ltedpf0fP0MOxXviHsMfZ0hUC6M+kWTF5RxPfdHw2VxAuoQZ BESeoM2jOuLxAR1DPf768Y0u4UrAV/BN755JQdvvfKGMBbekyeeJ6aazbB0wGXLRVSVG e+avNZpEDRY22GBlyp6ahPcWgX90mhpBX0wozxZ3K9Wm3uO+TdV4zCl9hxdU6+yaGjPT L+tQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlZI0oBVpspRQgiLv7wTOdLzRz2+0DVMc55Aeo1rVDkVbuFXi6nGjZ6NJyWqNFMC1rlwm+8 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.183.162 with SMTP id en2mr38702044lac.23.1405068233916; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 01:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.157.3 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 01:43:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:43:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Motion Blur cropped on Shape Layer To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11345d52f7d5cc04fde6f09f --001a11345d52f7d5cc04fde6f09f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 @Benny Yes the clipping still occurs with Grow Bounds added to the layer. @Zack Yes it's only on 3D shape layers in CS6 too @Robert The motion blur also disappears in Raytraced mode here too (but to be honest I never use Raytraced 3D!) @Roei Here's a project file that demonstrates it Roei: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1388508/MotionBlurProblem.aep Thanks for your replies everyone! I'll file a bug report as it's present in CC 2014 too. -- *Phil Bearman* *Phil Bearman Creative Media Solutions* Motion Graphics Design www.PhilBearman.co.uk : Nightclub & Bar ~ Production, Corporate & Events ~ DVD Products *2004-2014 - **Celebrating 10 years in business! * Click here for 10th anniversary video clip giveaway 0161 236 2581 - 9am-5pm, Monday-Friday This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this E-Mail. Please notify the sender immediately by E-Mail if you have received this E-Mail by mistake and delete the E-Mail from your system. E-Mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. 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On 10 July 2014 22:18, Roei Tzoref wrote: > phil can you upload an AEP file with just that layer with the odd > behavior? > I would like to experiment on that because I don't seem to have that bug. > I created a 3d ellipse shape laye with just a stroke like yours and moved > it or scaled it through the shape group properties > and even in the fastest movement the motion blur doesn't get cropped. > > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Phil Bearman > wrote: > >> Hi all, I've just come across what seems like a bug, and just wondering >> whether it's present in AE CC and therefore worth reporting (I'm still on >> CS6) >> >> Or better still, if there's a logical reason for it and solution :-) >> >> I've got a 3D shape layer with an ellipse which is scaling up over a few >> frames (using a shape group transform, not the layer scale). >> >> If the scale-up is very fast, the motion blur gets 'cropped' so has >> squared off edges - see this photo: >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1388508/MotionBlurCropping.jpg >> >> I've done a few more experiments and noticed this happens whenever a >> shape layer's transform properties are animated fast (but not when the >> actual layer's transform properties are animated). >> >> Here, the shape is moving left to right - notice how the right edge is >> cropped: >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1388508/MotionBlurCropping2.jpg >> >> It's as though there's a bounding box which isn't big enough to >> accomodate the motion blur. >> >> Any insight appreciated! >> >> Cheers, >> Phil >> >> -- >> >> *Phil Bearman* >> >> *Phil Bearman Creative Media Solutions* >> Motion Graphics Design >> >> www.PhilBearman.co.uk : Nightclub & Bar >> ~ Production, Corporate & Events ~ DVD >> Products >> >> *2004-2014 - **Celebrating 10 years in business! * >> >> >> 0161 236 2581 - 9am-5pm, Monday-Friday >> >> This message contains confidential information and is intended only for >> the individual named. 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@Benny Yes the clipping still occurs with Grow Bounds adde= d to the layer.

@Zack Yes it's only on 3D shape laye= rs in CS6 too

@Robert The motion blur also disappe= ars in Raytraced mode here too (but to be honest I never use Raytraced 3D!)=

@Roei Here's a project file that demonstrates it Ro= ei: =C2=A0https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1388508/MotionBlurProblem.= aep

Thanks for your replies everyone! =C2=A0I'll file a= bug report as it's present in CC 2014 too.

--

Ph= il Bearman

Phi= l Bearman Creative Media Solutions=20
Motion Graphics Design

www.= PhilBearman.co.uk : Nightclu= b=20 & Bar ~ Production, C= orporate=20 & Events ~ DVD Product= s=C2=A0


2004-2014 -=C2=A0Celebrati= ng 10 years in business! =C2=A0=C2=A0Click here for 10th anniversary = video clip giveaway=C2=A0


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On 10 July 2014 22:18, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
phil can you upload an AEP file with just that layer = with the odd behavior?=C2=A0
I would like to experiment on that b= ecause I don't seem to have that bug.
I created a 3d ellipse = shape laye =C2=A0with just a stroke like yours and moved it or scaled it th= rough the shape group properties
and even in the fastest movement the motion blur doesn't get cropp= ed.


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Phil Bearman <A= E-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hi al= l, I've just come across what seems like a bug, and just wondering whet= her it's present in AE CC and therefore worth reporting (I'm still = on CS6)

Or better still, if there's a logi= cal reason for it and solution :-)

I've got a 3D shape layer with an ellipse which is = scaling up over a few frames (using a shape group transform, not the layer = scale). =C2=A0=C2=A0

If the scale-up is very fast,= the motion blur gets 'cropped' so has squared off edges - see this= photo: =C2=A0https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/138= 8508/MotionBlurCropping.jpg

I've done a few more experiments and noticed this h= appens whenever a shape layer's transform properties are animated fast = (but not when the actual layer's transform properties are animated).

Here, the shape is moving left to right - notice how th= e right edge is cropped:=C2=A0https://dl.dropboxuser= content.com/u/1388508/MotionBlurCropping2.jpg

It's as though there's a bounding box which isn= 't big enough to accomodate the motion blur.

A= ny insight appreciated!

Cheers,
Phil

--

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Phi= l Bearman Creative Media Solutions=20
Motion Graphics Design

www.= PhilBearman.co.uk : Nightclu= b=20 & Bar ~ Production, C= orporate=20 & Events ~ DVD Product= s=C2=A0

2004-2014 -=C2=A0Celebrating 10 years in business! =C2=A0


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