From: "Roei Tzoref" Received: from mail-qg0-f50.google.com ([209.85.192.50] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5523792 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:09:16 +0200 Received: by mail-qg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id j5so1046501qga.9 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:09:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/NIu3KgPtmPgCYHpswGndmQTWnHmqzjV6bzoy0ivmKo=; b=wk9yfMw6ffGdcu9ui34IUBMhtzzHrKAEkseoMDao5Ux6J9ztqihkJ0oyRW8/2ARQMQ 14cw9P0DmbnS6SOkgQdlMEJQsDVIbTztYV6LoGoLeogej8Hk77dOOl0NpVO1IpLaNPEt IcnaY3DmY0/8Bht6OpZ/SjYEYqWpdJNwkGV7bUoNhymIM8QGhyYLcRtwFE/Dtf3PyYUg 6h2OboAD6lYtFjMlxzZXS6l/Z5wR5uC2/B0zXhcFf+CV1gDEMcnNUcDHjjsmF5n84Nz4 OUVT2DQ+omOOMW7wIZJGxvNMacvJErZR2jy+hMJ/TCEvyfkF30Xl+JD0zZYxcfgQ4ZNr +fFw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.128.9 with SMTP id i9mr11733113qas.50.1405091355097; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.18.194 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:09:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:09:15 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Motion Blur cropped on Shape Layer To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2cafc1900fb04fdec5344 --001a11c2cafc1900fb04fdec5344 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 thanks I got it. could not find the source of the problem other than really a bug. it is happening in my version of CC 12.2. of course it is a very specific situation that could be resolved in different of other methods achieving the same effect but you probably know that. On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Phil Bearman wrote: > @Benny Yes the clipping still occurs with Grow Bounds added to the layer. > > @Zack Yes it's only on 3D shape layers in CS6 too > > @Robert The motion blur also disappears in Raytraced mode here too (but to > be honest I never use Raytraced 3D!) > > @Roei Here's a project file that demonstrates it Roei: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1388508/MotionBlurProblem.aep > > Thanks for your replies everyone! I'll file a bug report as it's present > in CC 2014 too. > > -- > > *Phil Bearman* > > *Phil Bearman Creative Media Solutions* > Motion Graphics Design > > www.PhilBearman.co.uk : Nightclub & Bar > ~ Production, Corporate & Events ~ DVD > Products > > > *2004-2014 - **Celebrating 10 years in business! * Click here for 10th > anniversary video clip giveaway > > > > 0161 236 2581 - 9am-5pm, Monday-Friday > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this E-Mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by E-Mail if you have received this E-Mail by mistake and > delete the E-Mail from your system. 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thanks I got it. could not find the source of the problem = other than really a bug.=C2=A0
it is happening in my version of CC 12.2= .

of course it is a very specific situation t= hat could be resolved in different of other methods achieving the same effe= ct but you probably know that.


O= n Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Phil Bearman <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:
@Benny Yes the clipping sti= ll occurs with Grow Bounds added to the layer.

@Zack Yes= it's only on 3D shape layers in CS6 too

@Robert The motion blur also disappears in Raytraced mo= de here too (but to be honest I never use Raytraced 3D!)

@Roei Here's a project file that demonstrates it Ro= ei: =C2=A0https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1388508/= MotionBlurProblem.aep

Thanks for your replies everyone! =C2=A0I'll file a= bug report as it's present in CC 2014 too.

--

Ph= il Bearman

Phi= l Bearman Creative Media Solutions=20
Motion Graphics Design

www.= PhilBearman.co.uk : Nightclu= b=20 & Bar ~ Production, C= orporate=20 & Events ~ DVD Product= s=C2=A0


2004-2014 -=C2=A0<= b style=3D"color:rgb(255,0,102);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Cel= ebrating 10 years in business! =C2=A0=C2=A0Click here for 10th annive= rsary video clip giveaway=C2=A0


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On 10 July 2014 22:18, Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
phil can you upload an AEP file with just that layer = with the odd behavior?=C2=A0
I would like to experiment on that b= ecause I don't seem to have that bug.
I created a 3d ellipse = shape laye =C2=A0with just a stroke like yours and moved it or scaled it th= rough the shape group properties
and even in the fastest movement the motion blur doesn't get cropp= ed.


On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Phil Bearman <= AE-List@media-= motion.tv> wrote:
Hi all, I've= just come across what seems like a bug, and just wondering whether it'= s present in AE CC and therefore worth reporting (I'm still on CS6)
Or better still, if there's a logical reason = for it and solution :-)

I've got a 3D shape layer with an ellipse which is = scaling up over a few frames (using a shape group transform, not the layer = scale). =C2=A0=C2=A0

If the scale-up is very fast,= the motion blur gets 'cropped' so has squared off edges - see this= photo: =C2=A0https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/138= 8508/MotionBlurCropping.jpg

I've done a few more experiments and noticed this h= appens whenever a shape layer's transform properties are animated fast = (but not when the actual layer's transform properties are animated).

Here, the shape is moving left to right - notice how th= e right edge is cropped:=C2=A0https://dl.dropboxuser= content.com/u/1388508/MotionBlurCropping2.jpg

It's as though there's a bounding box which isn= 't big enough to accomodate the motion blur.

A= ny insight appreciated!

Cheers,
Phil

--

Ph= il Bearman

Phi= l Bearman Creative Media Solutions=20
Motion Graphics Design

www.= PhilBearman.co.uk : Nightclu= b=20 & Bar ~ Production, C= orporate=20 & Events ~ DVD Product= s=C2=A0

2004-2014 -=C2=A0Celebrating 10 years in business! =C2=A0


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