From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from atl4mhob10.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.48] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5532648 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:31:10 +0200 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.211]) by atl4mhob10.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s6OBV9Zx032169 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:31:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 25271 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jul 2014 11:31:08 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 60.225.102.245 X-Authenticated-UID: chris@chriszwar.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.4?) (chris@chriszwar.com@60.225.102.245) by 0 with ESMTPA; 24 Jul 2014 11:31:06 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_AFA4BF1E-D56D-4DCF-BB2A-744D19E91F9A" Message-Id: <32866FCD-6C76-4BC8-98A8-14AF9ACFB51A@chriszwar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Best office chairs? Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:31:03 +1000 References: To: "After Effects Mail List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) --Apple-Mail=_AFA4BF1E-D56D-4DCF-BB2A-744D19E91F9A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Just catching up on this thread=85 I'm an Aeron fan, but another one to = consider is the Ergohuman. I'm not a fan of the big balls and although = I've tried posture chairs and liked them (the kneely down ones), I could = still slump on them and they don't have arms.=20 More recently I think that arm and shoulder support is very important = and that getting the desk height right and minimising the effort it = takes to use the mouse (or tablet) is essential to preventing upper back = pain. As you say, a chair is cheaper than back surgery. -Chris PS. I haven't had time to check, but I think you'll find some = suggestions in the user comments on this Ars Technica blog: = http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/11/chairs-technica-where-your-favorite= -ars-writers-park-their-rears/ On 24/07/2014, at 3:58 AM, Zack Lovatt wrote: > As an alternative to the Aeron, tried out a bunch of chairs in = different various stores around town, and ended up ordering the Embody = online. Ordering online (either through Herman Miller or a reseller), = you get all sorts of cusotmization options to make it suit your needs = specifically; how much adjustment options do you want? What size for the = seat? Arms / no arms? Upgraded casters? Fancy colours/more breathable = materials? etc. >=20 > Zack Lovatt > 416.786.4129 > www.zacklovatt.com >=20 >=20 > On 23 July 2014 13:02, Dann Stubbs wrote: > i myself do get up a lot. always up and down, also that is one reason = i got the two chairs, i liked it better getting up to move between them = rather then just rolling over to the other desk. >=20 > in our previous office we had a RSI person come in too - there were = some common things most people did wrong, don=92t dangle your feet, nor = chair too low. back position etc - most adjusted but usually went back = to their old habits anyway. as a last resort before i bough the aerons = after giving up on all the =93office=94 chairs i even used one of those = knee chairs (anyone else remember those) like a kneeling scooter - it = was ok but just seemed to shift the body issues elsewhere for me. >=20 > i had a few terrible years of wrist pain long ago, but the aerons and = a proper desk height cured that - been years since i=92ve had that = carpel tunnel pain=85 >=20 > it is what fits you and your body best, i just have had excellent = results with my aerons so it=92s what suits you best (i bet at your = height you would need the large aeron for sure - most offices i go to = seem to be the medium) once you know the dimple thing about aerons i = will often check other chairs at other places to see the size - though = once you are used to seeing the different sizes you can usually tell the = apart easily enough. >=20 > - one thing that i noticed with other =93padded=94 chairs is that i = would crush the padding and eventually i could feel myself sitting on = the hard plywood underneath (or plastic in some cases) >=20 > not to get gross - but there is the dreaded H word that can come from = sitting too much - especially on hard surfaces and my first sign of that = issue all those years ago made me change my sitting habits right away. = very happy to say that i=92ve not ever had H issues since, i=92d like to = think the good support of the aeron as well as the vented design helps = with a good sitting temperature so your not too hot in your butt and = legs etc - etc another positive as we get older and our bodies fall = apart. >=20 > again not to get gross or into too much info - my dad always had H = issues, so i grew up hearing all the issues with it and just thought = everyone had those problems at they got older and i supposed that i was = going to be the same way when i got older - and am so happy that i don=92t= have the same problems. i wonder if it was the chairs they had in their = offices that contributed. >=20 > but we who make living sitting on our butts have many same worries = like lower back issue, etc=85 so better to share the info. chairs are = like a good bicycle - it needs to fit your size and body dimensions - = they aren=92t really one size fits all (though you can use one that way, = long term your body will feel it) >=20 > good luck and i hope you can find a chair that fits your needs = perfect. >=20 > dann > ___________________________________________________________________ >=20 > Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com > Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >=20 > http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm > ___________________________________________________________________ >=20 > =93You can ignore reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of = ignoring reality.=94 -Ayn Rand >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Teddy Gage = wrote: >=20 >> And to add to that, I use to work at an office that had an ergonomics = specialist on staff. The thing that stuck with me she said even though = there are some general things you can do to improve RSIs and back pain, = "it's not about a single perfect position or chair, it's about changing = your setup constantly" - change your chair height, arm height, lumbar = position, even chairs entirely, never stay in the same position day in = day out. it's the repetition of singular stresses that wear out that = weak link in your body.=20 >>=20 >> I am pretty sure I have some kind of sciatica, but I do yoga with my = wife, I lift weights, I do core and stamina training... I have lost over = 30lbs in the last year and it has improved my back pain dramatically. = But there's still only so much you can do when you sit all day, and I am = literally wearing out my current chair, so it's time for an upgrade.=20 >>=20 >> I also get up at least 2x an hour, I am easily distracted, so that's = nice. Ironically I never had back pain when I was a smoker because of = all the breaks I took. But all other aspects of my life have also = improved dramatically since I quit, so it's a fair trade. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Brian Klein = wrote: >> My recommendation is to find a chair that fits you best. It might be = any of the Aeron models mentioned, but you might find a perfectly = suitable chair at Costco. Aeron's would certainly look more impressive, = if that is a factor. You might want to consult with an ergonomic = specialist to help you make a good decision? It might be worth it, = especially if you are considering spending a lot of money on an Aeron. >>=20 >> Also, I have had bouts of low back pain myself, and my recommendation = would be to work with a good trainer to strengthen your core, and make = sure you are getting up every 30 minutes to move around. Staying in the = same position hours on end is likely more of an issue than even sitting = in a bad chair. >>=20 >> Hope that's helpful. >> Brian >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: >>=20 >>> I might suggest that if you have lower back issues, maybe you need = to try a stool where you can keep moving and strengthen your core. >>>=20 >>> I am looking at a KORE Stool myself. http://www.korestool.com >>>=20 >>> Thanks. >>>=20 >>> Benny Christensen >>> Producers Playhouse >>> Oklahoma City >>> 405-858-0700 >>>=20 >>> "Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?" - Redd Foxx >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Teddy Gage = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Well Dann maybe I will look into trying the large Aeron, last time = I am pretty sure I was in a medium or even small, and I'm over six foot = so like I said, could have been a size issue. My problem with the arms = had more to do with angle and width than position adjustability though, = which is not as easily fixed.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> However I was hoping there were great alternatives and all I've = seen suggested is the steelcase leap so far... Which is at the top end = of my price range, although much cheaper than back surgery. Gotta go = find a place I can try them out as opposed to ordering sight-unseen on = the web. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Dann Stubbs = wrote: >>>> i=92ve got two of them at two desks side by side - put the settings = the same on each and i can get up and move from workstation to = workstation and don=92t even feel like i=92ve moved chairs. >>>>=20 >>>> also mine are now 16+ years old! (gasp) and still look and feel = like brand new. >>>>=20 >>>> i don=92t have any excessive lint issues on them at all, wear = mostly lightweight clothing (florida) and cottons etc=85 maybe once a = year i remember to take the vacuum hose and do a light dusting on the = lower chair legs but no real shredding issues that i see, but i try hard = for a fairly clean environment since it=92s computers ya know=85 helps = them run cooler too and not build up the heat mat of dust inside either. >>>>=20 >>>> i did see a few in our past office that people abused, but they = really are tough chairs. mine are the fully articulated one (i think = those =93dumbed down ones=94 came later as a cost saving measure to = compete with the look alikes) >>>>=20 >>>> before i bit the bullet and got these (list price used to be $1200 = each when i got them) i used to get expensive =93office=94 chairs = ($200-$300 each) and literally had to toss them away after a year, two = max - just crushed them with my long days sitting. these have probably = 12 hours a day for the past 16 years=85 some days probably 24+ hours, = some a bit less (i=92m not good at taking vacations) >>>>=20 >>>> i=92m an ex athlete person (played hockey for 20+ years), still = pretty solid and heavy for my size and age at 5=92 10=94 - yeah with my = age now i=92ve got an extra 20 lbs hanging around but for the past = twenty years i=92ve been 200-225LB and the chairs don=92t mind at all. = not some skinny lightweight on them. >>>>=20 >>>> probably the best office tool i ever purchased. they are a bit = firm, but i personally like firm seats, beds etc=85 don=92t care for = soft or mushy things. >>>>=20 >>>> but then again, everyone is different but i=92d be really sad if i = lost these chairs. sorry to hear you could not find a good setting for = you=85 >>>>=20 >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>>=20 >>>> Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com >>>> Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >>>>=20 >>>> http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm >>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>>=20 >>>> =93You can ignore reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences = of ignoring reality.=94 -Ayn Rand >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Richard Bajjalieh = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> Did you get the fully articulated version? There is a Aeron = version that looks the same but lacks all the adjustments. >>>>> =20 >>>>> I have had one for years; I have serious back issues, 2 collapsed = discs in my lower lumbar, it=92s the only chair I can sit in for an = extended time. When the seat broke I called HM to get a replacement part = and they sent me a new chair for free. Seriously don=92t know how I=92d = work without it. >>>>> =20 >>>>> Everyone=92s different but I=92m surprised you couldn=92t find a = comfortable position unless you had the =91dumbed down=92 version. >>>>> =20 >>>>> Rich Bajjalieh >>>>> =20 >>>>> From: Teddy Gage [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]=20 >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:00 PM >>>>> To: After Effects Mail List >>>>> Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Best office chairs? >>>>> =20 >>>>> I thought the seat was uncomfortable and the arms had no good = working positions. Maybe it was a size thing, but I was unimpressed >>>>> -TG >>>>> =20 >>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Dann Stubbs = wrote: >>>>> really? i love my aeron=92s >>>>> =20 >>>>> are you short or tall perhaps? >>>>> =20 >>>>> there are three sizes of aeron - on the top back under the lip = feel and there are dimples - one for small, two for medium and three for = large chair size >>>>> =20 >>>>> i=92m 5=92 10 and the medium fits me great, just get it adjusted = right and you can also flip the lumbar over to have two levels of lower = back support (pull it up and off the chair back and flip it over - you = can see there are two =93depths=94 then slide it back on) >>>>> =20 >>>>> only people i=92ve heard of that really did not like the aeron=92s = in our previous office of 100+ were people either too big or too small = for the medium sized chairs we had >>>>> =20 >>>>> dann >>>>> = ___________________________________________________________________ >>>>> =20 >>>>> Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com >>>>> Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >>>>> =20 >>>>> http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm >>>>> = ___________________________________________________________________ >>>>> =20 >>>>> =93You can ignore reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences = of ignoring reality.=94 -Ayn Rand >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>> =20 >>>>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Teddy Gage = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Looking for good lower back support. Tried the Aeron chair for a = while but hated it. Anything people swear by in this industry of = sitting? Have a reasonable budget for something well-built.=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>> -- >>>>> _____________________________ >>>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>>> teddygage dot com >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>> -- >>>>> _____________________________ >>>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>>> teddygage dot com >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> --=20 >>>> _____________________________ >>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>> teddygage dot com >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_AFA4BF1E-D56D-4DCF-BB2A-744D19E91F9A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Just = catching up on this thread=85 I'm an Aeron fan, but another one to = consider is the Ergohuman.  I'm not a fan of the big balls and = although I've tried posture chairs and liked them (the kneely down = ones), I could still slump on them and they don't have = arms. 
More recently I think that arm and shoulder support is = very important and that getting the desk height right and minimising the = effort it takes to use the mouse (or tablet) is essential to preventing = upper back pain.

As you say, a chair is cheaper = than back = surgery.


-Chris

PS.  I haven't had time to check, but I think you'll find = some suggestions in the user comments on this Ars Technica = blog:



On 24/07/2014, at 3:58 AM, = Zack Lovatt <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

As an alternative to the Aeron, tried out = a bunch of chairs in different various stores around town, and ended up = ordering the Embody online. Ordering online (either through Herman = Miller or a reseller), you get all sorts of cusotmization options to = make it suit your needs specifically; how much adjustment options do you = want? What size for the seat? Arms / no arms? Upgraded casters? Fancy = colours/more breathable materials? etc.

Zack = Lovatt
416.786.4129


On 23 July 2014 13:02, Dann Stubbs = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
i myself do get up a lot. always up = and down, also that is one reason i got the two chairs, i liked it = better getting up to move between them rather then just rolling over to = the other desk.

in our previous office we had a RSI person come in too - = there were some common things most people did wrong, don=92t dangle your = feet, nor chair too low. back position etc - most adjusted but usually = went back to their old habits anyway. as a last resort before i bough = the aerons after giving up on all the =93office=94 chairs i even used = one of those knee chairs (anyone else remember those) like a kneeling = scooter - it was ok but just seemed to shift the body issues elsewhere = for me.

i had a few terrible years of wrist pain long ago, = but the aerons and a proper desk height cured that - been years since = i=92ve had that carpel tunnel pain=85

it is = what fits you and your body best, i just have had excellent results with = my aerons so it=92s what suits you best (i bet at your height you would = need the large aeron for sure - most offices i go to seem to be the = medium) once you know the dimple thing about aerons i will often check = other chairs at other places to see the size - though once you are used = to seeing the different sizes you can usually tell the apart easily = enough.

 - one thing that i noticed with other =93padded=94= chairs is that i would crush the padding and eventually i could feel = myself sitting on the hard plywood underneath (or plastic in some = cases)

not to get gross - but there is the dreaded H word that can = come from sitting too much - especially on hard surfaces and my first = sign of that issue all those years ago made me change my sitting habits = right away. very happy to say that i=92ve not ever had H issues since, = i=92d like to think the good support of the aeron as well as the vented = design helps with a good sitting temperature so your not too hot in your = butt and legs etc - etc another positive as we get older and our bodies = fall apart.

again not to get gross or into too much info - my = dad always had H issues, so i grew up hearing all the issues with it and = just thought everyone had those problems at they got older and i = supposed that i was going to be the same way when i got older - and am = so happy that i don=92t have the same problems. i wonder if it was the = chairs they had in their offices that contributed.

but we who make living sitting on our butts have = many same worries like lower back issue, etc=85 so better to share the = info. chairs are like a good bicycle - it needs to fit your size and = body dimensions - they aren=92t really one size fits all (though you can = use one that way, long term your body will feel it)

good luck and i hope you can find a chair that fits = your needs perfect.

dann
=
= ___________________________________________________________________
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Dark Sky Digital -  http://www.darkskydigital.com

http://www.RenderKing.com  Value Priced = C4D, VRAY Render Farm
= ___________________________________________________________________
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=93You can ignore = reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.=94 = -Ayn Rand



On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:39 PM, = Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

And to add to that, I use to work at an office that had an ergonomics = specialist on staff. The thing that stuck with me she said even though = there are some general things you can do to improve RSIs and back pain, = "it's not about a single perfect position or chair, it's about changing = your setup constantly" - change your chair height, arm height, lumbar = position, even chairs entirely, never stay in the same position day in = day out. it's the repetition of singular stresses that wear out that = weak link in your body. 

I am pretty sure I have some kind of sciatica, but I do = yoga with my wife, I lift weights, I do core and stamina training... I = have lost over 30lbs in the last year and it has improved my back pain = dramatically. But there's still only so much you can do when you sit all = day, and I am literally wearing out my current chair, so it's time for = an upgrade. 

I also get up at least 2x an hour, I am easily = distracted, so that's nice. Ironically I never had back pain when I was = a smoker because of all the breaks I took. But all other aspects of my = life have also improved dramatically since I quit, so it's a fair = trade.


On = Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Brian Klein <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
My recommendation = is to find a chair that fits you best. It might be any of the Aeron = models mentioned, but you might find a perfectly suitable chair at = Costco. Aeron's would certainly look more impressive, if that is a = factor.  You might want to consult with an ergonomic specialist to = help you make a good decision? It might be worth it, especially if you = are considering spending a lot of money on an Aeron.

Also, I have had bouts of low back pain myself, and = my recommendation would be to work with a good trainer to = strengthen your core, and make sure you are getting up every 30 minutes = to move around. Staying in the same position hours on end is likely more = of an issue than even sitting in a bad chair.

Hope that's helpful.
Brian


On = Jul 23, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Benny Christensen <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I might suggest that if you have lower = back issues, maybe you need to try a stool where you can keep moving and = strengthen your core.

I am looking at a KORE Stool myself. http://www.korestool.com

Thanks.

Benny Christensen
Producers = Playhouse
Oklahoma City

"Who = are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?" - Redd Foxx






On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Teddy Gage = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Well Dann maybe I will look into trying the large Aeron, last time I am = pretty sure I was in a medium or even small, and I'm over six foot so = like I said, could have been a size issue. My problem with the arms had = more to do with angle and width than position adjustability though, = which is not as easily fixed. 

However I was hoping there were great alternatives and = all I've seen suggested is the steelcase leap so far... Which is at the = top end of my price range, although much cheaper than back surgery. = Gotta go find a place I can try them out as opposed to ordering = sight-unseen on the web.





On Tue, Jul 22, = 2014 at 6:12 PM, Dann Stubbs <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
i=92ve got two of them at two desks side = by side - put the settings the same on each and i can get up and move = from workstation to workstation and don=92t even feel like i=92ve moved = chairs.

also mine are now 16+ years old! (gasp) and still look = and feel like brand new.

i don=92t have any = excessive lint issues on them at all, wear mostly lightweight clothing = (florida) and cottons etc=85 maybe once a year i remember to take the = vacuum hose and do a light dusting on the lower chair legs but no real = shredding issues that i see, but i try hard for a fairly clean = environment since it=92s computers ya know=85 helps them run cooler too = and not build up the heat mat of dust inside either.

i did see a few in our past office that people = abused, but they really are tough chairs. mine are the fully articulated = one (i think those =93dumbed down ones=94 came later as a cost saving = measure to compete with the look alikes)

before i bit the bullet and got these (list price = used to be $1200 each when i got them) i used to get expensive =93office=94= chairs ($200-$300 each) and literally had to toss them away after a = year, two max - just crushed them with my long days sitting. these have = probably 12  hours a day for the past 16 years=85 some days = probably 24+ hours, some a bit less (i=92m not good at taking = vacations)

i=92m an ex athlete person (played hockey for 20+ = years), still pretty solid and heavy for my size and age at 5=92 10=94 - = yeah with my age now i=92ve got an extra 20 lbs hanging around but for = the past twenty years i=92ve been 200-225LB and the chairs don=92t mind = at all. not some skinny lightweight on them.

probably the best office tool i ever purchased. they = are a bit firm, but i personally like firm seats, beds etc=85 don=92t = care for soft or mushy things.

but then again, = everyone is different but i=92d be really sad if i lost these chairs. = sorry to hear you could not find a good setting for you=85

= ___________________________________________________________________
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Dann Stubbs  -  dann@darkskydigital.com
Dark Sky Digital -  http://www.darkskydigital.com

http://www.RenderKing.com  Value Priced = C4D, VRAY Render Farm
= ___________________________________________________________________
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=93You can ignore reality, but you can=92t = ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.=94 -Ayn = Rand



=
On Jul 22, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Richard Bajjalieh = <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Did you get the fully articulated version? There is a Aeron version = that looks the same but lacks all the adjustments.
 
I have had one for years; I have serious back issues, 2 collapsed = discs in my lower lumbar, it=92s the only chair I can sit in for an = extended time. When the seat broke I called HM to get a replacement part = and they sent me a new chair for free. Seriously don=92t know how I=92d = work without it.
 
Everyone=92s different but I=92m surprised you couldn=92t find a = comfortable position unless you had the =91dumbed down=92 version.
 
Rich Bajjalieh
 
From: = Teddy Gage [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]  Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:00 = PM
To: After Effects Mail = List
Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Best = office chairs?
 
I thought the seat was uncomfortable and the arms had no good working = positions. Maybe it was a size thing, but I was unimpressed
-TG
 
On Tue, Jul = 22, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Dann Stubbs <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
really? i love = my aeron=92s
 
are you short or tall perhaps?
 
there are three sizes of aeron - on the top back under = the lip feel and there are dimples - one for small, two for medium and = three for large chair size
 
i=92m 5=92 10 = and the medium fits me great, just get it adjusted right and you can = also flip the lumbar over to have two levels of lower back support (pull = it up and off the chair back and flip it over - you can see there are = two =93depths=94 then slide it back on)
 
only people = i=92ve heard of that really did not like the aeron=92s in our previous = office of 100+ were people either too big or too small for the medium = sized chairs we had
 
dann
_________________= __________________________________________________
 
Dann = Stubbs  -  dann@darkskydigital.com
Dark Sky = Digital -  http://www.darkskydigital.com
 
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=93You can ignore = reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.=94 = -Ayn Rand
 
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On Jul 22, = 2014, at 4:00 PM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:


Looking for = good lower back support. Tried the Aeron chair for a while but hated it. = Anything people swear by in this industry of sitting? Have a reasonable = budget for something well-built. 
 

 
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