From: "Daniel Monro" Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.59.212] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5532748 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:27:32 +0200 Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WDQP1o0020SCNGk5EDTZlS; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:27:33 +0000 Received: from [10.0.78.191] ([157.166.173.130]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WDRP1o00R2pA57h3VDRTSg; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:25:31 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_935E8B21-57F9-4E10-9368-17E5AFD0ED4E" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Best office chairs? Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 09:25:26 -0400 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1406208453; bh=6q2fg1eN37ZGP5XC6pp1oHuB3W+3NQ26dQxdP7i+PIg=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Mime-Version: Subject:Date:To; b=fvCmCWgd/8H+Q8AXCa3niMg2IzuUgQDUTybremxd5zkHpdSR+PoMEiNwfgErS7C09 N7HdNKwye0sbcNnmx8W4Plavc6tJD+C7KV8QU0aPhI30Lt3cuSxC61gOXGF9iwN6jY 1mvux7r+d87ufZ5zn+9SJvIi+Q7nbYgJ/Hb/CAUiyfYttIYsr55soQ6rNft29432Hz 92qZe+Z3AE7ppiplAmCqiAFLFlXFeovhhr8HNk/LAQKv35CKhwnwPi5oOEAyjFmOJS dREqVI38rECS0mJsnH8g7kNuNSo3FWJQ2u+y5IK01cK1vrJEsus0LQJUI17H/wzCKK Tnf+g7thEiVHw== --Apple-Mail=_935E8B21-57F9-4E10-9368-17E5AFD0ED4E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I treat my aeron chair like a stool; i sit high and on the front edge, = feet on the floor. Then I can also sit back, lean back, etc. I know = another guy (early 50's) who lowers it all the way and practically lies = on his back to edit. Go figure... On WednesdayJul 232014, at 11:42 AM, Benny Christensen = wrote: > I might suggest that if you have lower back issues, maybe you need to = try a stool where you can keep moving and strengthen your core. >=20 > I am looking at a KORE Stool myself. http://www.korestool.com >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > Benny Christensen > Producers Playhouse > Oklahoma City > 405-858-0700 >=20 > "Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?" - Redd Foxx >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Teddy Gage = wrote: >=20 >> Well Dann maybe I will look into trying the large Aeron, last time I = am pretty sure I was in a medium or even small, and I'm over six foot so = like I said, could have been a size issue. My problem with the arms had = more to do with angle and width than position adjustability though, = which is not as easily fixed.=20 >>=20 >> However I was hoping there were great alternatives and all I've seen = suggested is the steelcase leap so far... Which is at the top end of my = price range, although much cheaper than back surgery. Gotta go find a = place I can try them out as opposed to ordering sight-unseen on the web. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Dann Stubbs = wrote: >> i=92ve got two of them at two desks side by side - put the settings = the same on each and i can get up and move from workstation to = workstation and don=92t even feel like i=92ve moved chairs. >>=20 >> also mine are now 16+ years old! (gasp) and still look and feel like = brand new. >>=20 >> i don=92t have any excessive lint issues on them at all, wear mostly = lightweight clothing (florida) and cottons etc=85 maybe once a year i = remember to take the vacuum hose and do a light dusting on the lower = chair legs but no real shredding issues that i see, but i try hard for a = fairly clean environment since it=92s computers ya know=85 helps them = run cooler too and not build up the heat mat of dust inside either. >>=20 >> i did see a few in our past office that people abused, but they = really are tough chairs. mine are the fully articulated one (i think = those =93dumbed down ones=94 came later as a cost saving measure to = compete with the look alikes) >>=20 >> before i bit the bullet and got these (list price used to be $1200 = each when i got them) i used to get expensive =93office=94 chairs = ($200-$300 each) and literally had to toss them away after a year, two = max - just crushed them with my long days sitting. these have probably = 12 hours a day for the past 16 years=85 some days probably 24+ hours, = some a bit less (i=92m not good at taking vacations) >>=20 >> i=92m an ex athlete person (played hockey for 20+ years), still = pretty solid and heavy for my size and age at 5=92 10=94 - yeah with my = age now i=92ve got an extra 20 lbs hanging around but for the past = twenty years i=92ve been 200-225LB and the chairs don=92t mind at all. = not some skinny lightweight on them. >>=20 >> probably the best office tool i ever purchased. they are a bit firm, = but i personally like firm seats, beds etc=85 don=92t care for soft or = mushy things. >>=20 >> but then again, everyone is different but i=92d be really sad if i = lost these chairs. sorry to hear you could not find a good setting for = you=85 >>=20 >> ___________________________________________________________________ >>=20 >> Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com >> Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >>=20 >> http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm >> ___________________________________________________________________ >>=20 >> =93You can ignore reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of = ignoring reality.=94 -Ayn Rand >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Jul 22, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Richard Bajjalieh = wrote: >>=20 >>> Did you get the fully articulated version? There is a Aeron version = that looks the same but lacks all the adjustments. >>> =20 >>> I have had one for years; I have serious back issues, 2 collapsed = discs in my lower lumbar, it=92s the only chair I can sit in for an = extended time. When the seat broke I called HM to get a replacement part = and they sent me a new chair for free. Seriously don=92t know how I=92d = work without it. >>> =20 >>> Everyone=92s different but I=92m surprised you couldn=92t find a = comfortable position unless you had the =91dumbed down=92 version. >>> =20 >>> Rich Bajjalieh >>> =20 >>> From: Teddy Gage [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]=20 >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:00 PM >>> To: After Effects Mail List >>> Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Best office chairs? >>> =20 >>> I thought the seat was uncomfortable and the arms had no good = working positions. Maybe it was a size thing, but I was unimpressed >>> -TG >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Dann Stubbs = wrote: >>> really? i love my aeron=92s >>> =20 >>> are you short or tall perhaps? >>> =20 >>> there are three sizes of aeron - on the top back under the lip feel = and there are dimples - one for small, two for medium and three for = large chair size >>> =20 >>> i=92m 5=92 10 and the medium fits me great, just get it adjusted = right and you can also flip the lumbar over to have two levels of lower = back support (pull it up and off the chair back and flip it over - you = can see there are two =93depths=94 then slide it back on) >>> =20 >>> only people i=92ve heard of that really did not like the aeron=92s = in our previous office of 100+ were people either too big or too small = for the medium sized chairs we had >>> =20 >>> dann >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> =20 >>> Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com >>> Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >>> =20 >>> http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> =20 >>> =93You can ignore reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences = of ignoring reality.=94 -Ayn Rand >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Teddy Gage = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Looking for good lower back support. Tried the Aeron chair for a = while but hated it. Anything people swear by in this industry of = sitting? Have a reasonable budget for something well-built.=20 >>> =20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>> -- >>> _____________________________ >>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>> teddygage dot com >>> =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>> -- >>> _____________________________ >>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>> teddygage dot com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com >=20 --Apple-Mail=_935E8B21-57F9-4E10-9368-17E5AFD0ED4E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 I = treat my aeron chair like a stool; i sit high and on the front edge, = feet on the floor. Then I can also sit back, lean back, etc. I know = another guy (early 50's) who lowers it all the way and practically lies = on his back to edit. Go figure...

On WednesdayJul = 232014, at 11:42 AM, Benny Christensen <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

I = might suggest that if you have lower back issues, maybe you need to try = a stool where you can keep moving and strengthen your = core.

I am looking at a KORE Stool myself. http://www.korestool.com
=
Thanks.

Benny = Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma = City
405-858-0700

"Who are you = going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?" - Redd = Foxx






On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Well Dann maybe I will look into trying = the large Aeron, last time I am pretty sure I was in a medium or even = small, and I'm over six foot so like I said, could have been a size = issue. My problem with the arms had more to do with angle and width than = position adjustability though, which is not as easily fixed. 

However I was hoping there were great alternatives and = all I've seen suggested is the steelcase leap so far... Which is at the = top end of my price range, although much cheaper than back surgery. = Gotta go find a place I can try them out as opposed to ordering = sight-unseen on the web.





On Tue, Jul 22, = 2014 at 6:12 PM, Dann Stubbs <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
i=92ve got two of them at two desks side = by side - put the settings the same on each and i can get up and move = from workstation to workstation and don=92t even feel like i=92ve moved = chairs.

also mine are now 16+ years old! (gasp) and still look = and feel like brand new.

i don=92t have any = excessive lint issues on them at all, wear mostly lightweight clothing = (florida) and cottons etc=85 maybe once a year i remember to take the = vacuum hose and do a light dusting on the lower chair legs but no real = shredding issues that i see, but i try hard for a fairly clean = environment since it=92s computers ya know=85 helps them run cooler too = and not build up the heat mat of dust inside either.

i did see a few in our past office that people = abused, but they really are tough chairs. mine are the fully articulated = one (i think those =93dumbed down ones=94 came later as a cost saving = measure to compete with the look alikes)

before i bit the bullet and got these (list price = used to be $1200 each when i got them) i used to get expensive =93office=94= chairs ($200-$300 each) and literally had to toss them away after a = year, two max - just crushed them with my long days sitting. these have = probably 12  hours a day for the past 16 years=85 some days = probably 24+ hours, some a bit less (i=92m not good at taking = vacations)

i=92m an ex athlete person (played hockey for 20+ = years), still pretty solid and heavy for my size and age at 5=92 10=94 - = yeah with my age now i=92ve got an extra 20 lbs hanging around but for = the past twenty years i=92ve been 200-225LB and the chairs don=92t mind = at all. not some skinny lightweight on them.

probably the best office tool i ever purchased. they = are a bit firm, but i personally like firm seats, beds etc=85 don=92t = care for soft or mushy things.

but then again, = everyone is different but i=92d be really sad if i lost these chairs. = sorry to hear you could not find a good setting for you=85

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Dann Stubbs  -  dann@darkskydigital.com
Dark Sky Digital -  http://www.darkskydigital.com

http://www.RenderKing.com  Value Priced = C4D, VRAY Render Farm
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=93You can ignore = reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.=94 = -Ayn Rand



On Jul 22, 2014, at 5:13 PM, = Richard Bajjalieh <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Did you get the fully articulated version? There is a Aeron version = that looks the same but lacks all the = adjustments.
 
I have had one for years; I have serious back issues, 2 collapsed = discs in my lower lumbar, it=92s the only chair I can sit in for an = extended time. When the seat broke I called HM to get a replacement part = and they sent me a new chair for free. Seriously don=92t know how I=92d = work without it.
 
Everyone=92s different but I=92m surprised you couldn=92t find a = comfortable position unless you had the =91dumbed down=92 = version.
 
Rich Bajjalieh
 
From: = Teddy Gage [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]  Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:00 = PM
To: After Effects Mail = List
Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Best office = chairs?
 
I thought the = seat was uncomfortable and the arms had no good working positions. Maybe = it was a size thing, but I was unimpressed
-TG

 

On Tue, Jul = 22, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Dann Stubbs <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
really? i love = my aeron=92s
 
are = you short or tall perhaps?
 
there = are three sizes of aeron - on the top back under the lip feel and there = are dimples - one for small, two for medium and three for large chair = size
 
i=92m 5=92 10 and the medium fits me great, just get it adjusted right = and you can also flip the lumbar over to have two levels of lower back = support (pull it up and off the chair back and flip it over - you can = see there are two =93depths=94 then slide it back = on)
 
only people i=92ve heard of that really did not like the aeron=92s in = our previous office of 100+ were people either too big or too small for = the medium sized chairs we had
 
dann
_________________= __________________________________________________
 
Dann = Stubbs  -  dann@darkskydigital.com
Dark Sky = Digital -  http://www.darkskydigital.com
 
http://www.RenderKing.com  Value Priced = C4D, VRAY Render Farm
_________________= __________________________________________________
 
=93You can ignore = reality, but you can=92t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.=94 = -Ayn Rand
 
=
 
 
On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:


Looking for = good lower back support. Tried the Aeron chair for a while but hated it. = Anything people swear by in this industry of sitting? Have a reasonable = budget for something well-built. 
 

 
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teddygage dot = com
 


 
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