From: "Zack Lovatt" Received: from mail-vc0-f179.google.com ([209.85.220.179] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5532977 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:07:53 +0200 Received: by mail-vc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hq11so5533432vcb.24 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=FKpYbMZOaiVWyFCeZEpwo27d1xFnnLgbJ0idS+sytTM=; b=EB+OD464aoMe8iSdH51kEW+yL7+N1eblosM4rVnOnFJDbaxNtARv0mmuQ8OmZxfcDf P/op8ul76iqbx84luapsHn81Iz1k+biRBQ8QGnib/QqqBjd5nw3tzSl4B8Owko2LgEI6 CHg/sSBVqF6hoVm2KoH7kXDkN07BP9aIEWjLI3yKKAuNFhcW9YiqcKuuCg2luwzigw3R ml6mwYUNyj5qVUjwrCrAYAJry1lsZW5lKdEZ+AF5ZbN0sX2pHZfNXo0mXdCGx350kewW NfL5A+yzlie5ynPgra1xyDSOQQ1C9Ly5y+lSCZPlIdUWe2eIvc0qA8Y32ylTwPG0Kw9B 2/YA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl0+eBORe9HG3pM4pA8S2VXoqTIaYra9GsokPc+NIbUHk4SH3/XXpXDztoBQKjB+Abb3EJY X-Received: by 10.52.163.169 with SMTP id yj9mr5969697vdb.94.1406228869104; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:07:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.252.132 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:07:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [184.175.39.233] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:07:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] [OT] Best office chairs? To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1a2203777fb04fef52c8a --001a11c1a2203777fb04fef52c8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mesh w/ lots of support. I love it. Most of the settings have just been a 'set it and forget it' type of thing; everything's great. Zack Lovatt 416.786.4129 www.zacklovatt.com On 24 July 2014 13:55, Teddy Gage wrote: > What do you think about the Embody? How comfortable is the actual seat? I= s > it deep foam or mesh? > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Zack Lovatt > wrote: > >> As an alternative to the Aeron, tried out a bunch of chairs in different >> various stores around town, and ended up ordering the Embody online. >> Ordering online (either through Herman Miller or a reseller), you get al= l >> sorts of cusotmization options to make it suit your needs specifically; = how >> much adjustment options do you want? What size for the seat? Arms / no >> arms? Upgraded casters? Fancy colours/more breathable materials? etc. >> >> Zack Lovatt >> 416.786.4129 >> www.zacklovatt.com >> >> >> On 23 July 2014 13:02, Dann Stubbs wrote: >> >>> i myself do get up a lot. always up and down, also that is one reason i >>> got the two chairs, i liked it better getting up to move between them >>> rather then just rolling over to the other desk. >>> >>> in our previous office we had a RSI person come in too - there were som= e >>> common things most people did wrong, don=E2=80=99t dangle your feet, no= r chair too >>> low. back position etc - most adjusted but usually went back to their o= ld >>> habits anyway. as a last resort before i bough the aerons after giving = up >>> on all the =E2=80=9Coffice=E2=80=9D chairs i even used one of those kne= e chairs (anyone >>> else remember those) like a kneeling scooter - it was ok but just seeme= d to >>> shift the body issues elsewhere for me. >>> >>> i had a few terrible years of wrist pain long ago, but the aerons and a >>> proper desk height cured that - been years since i=E2=80=99ve had that = carpel >>> tunnel pain=E2=80=A6 >>> >>> it is what fits you and your body best, i just have had excellent >>> results with my aerons so it=E2=80=99s what suits you best (i bet at yo= ur height >>> you would need the large aeron for sure - most offices i go to seem to = be >>> the medium) once you know the dimple thing about aerons i will often ch= eck >>> other chairs at other places to see the size - though once you are used= to >>> seeing the different sizes you can usually tell the apart easily enough= . >>> >>> - one thing that i noticed with other =E2=80=9Cpadded=E2=80=9D chairs = is that i would >>> crush the padding and eventually i could feel myself sitting on the har= d >>> plywood underneath (or plastic in some cases) >>> >>> not to get gross - but there is the dreaded H word that can come from >>> sitting too much - especially on hard surfaces and my first sign of tha= t >>> issue all those years ago made me change my sitting habits right away. = very >>> happy to say that i=E2=80=99ve not ever had H issues since, i=E2=80=99d= like to think the >>> good support of the aeron as well as the vented design helps with a goo= d >>> sitting temperature so your not too hot in your butt and legs etc - etc >>> another positive as we get older and our bodies fall apart. >>> >>> again not to get gross or into too much info - my dad always had H >>> issues, so i grew up hearing all the issues with it and just thought >>> everyone had those problems at they got older and i supposed that i was >>> going to be the same way when i got older - and am so happy that i don= =E2=80=99t >>> have the same problems. i wonder if it was the chairs they had in their >>> offices that contributed. >>> >>> but we who make living sitting on our butts have many same worries like >>> lower back issue, etc=E2=80=A6 so better to share the info. chairs are = like a good >>> bicycle - it needs to fit your size and body dimensions - they aren=E2= =80=99t >>> really one size fits all (though you can use one that way, long term yo= ur >>> body will feel it) >>> >>> good luck and i hope you can find a chair that fits your needs perfect. >>> >>> dann >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com >>> Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >>> >>> http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> =E2=80=9CYou can ignore reality, but you can=E2=80=99t ignore the conse= quences of >>> ignoring reality.=E2=80=9D -Ayn Rand >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 23, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Teddy Gage >>> wrote: >>> >>> And to add to that, I use to work at an office that had an ergonomics >>> specialist on staff. The thing that stuck with me she said even though >>> there are some general things you can do to improve RSIs and back pain, >>> "it's not about a single perfect position or chair, it's about changing >>> your setup constantly" - change your chair height, arm height, lumbar >>> position, even chairs entirely, never stay in the same position day in = day >>> out. it's the repetition of singular stresses that wear out that weak l= ink >>> in your body. >>> >>> I am pretty sure I have some kind of sciatica, but I do yoga with my >>> wife, I lift weights, I do core and stamina training... I have lost ove= r >>> 30lbs in the last year and it has improved my back pain dramatically. B= ut >>> there's still only so much you can do when you sit all day, and I am >>> literally wearing out my current chair, so it's time for an upgrade. >>> >>> I also get up at least 2x an hour, I am easily distracted, so that's >>> nice. Ironically I never had back pain when I was a smoker because of a= ll >>> the breaks I took. But all other aspects of my life have also improved >>> dramatically since I quit, so it's a fair trade. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Brian Klein >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My recommendation is to find a chair that fits you best. It might be >>>> any of the Aeron models mentioned, but you might find a perfectly suit= able >>>> chair at Costco. Aeron's would certainly look more impressive, if that= is a >>>> factor. You might want to consult with an ergonomic specialist to hel= p you >>>> make a good decision? It might be worth it, especially if you are >>>> considering spending a lot of money on an Aeron. >>>> >>>> Also, I have had bouts of low back pain myself, and my recommendation >>>> would be to work with a good trainer to strengthen your core, and make= sure >>>> you are getting up every 30 minutes to move around. Staying in the sam= e >>>> position hours on end is likely more of an issue than even sitting in = a bad >>>> chair. >>>> >>>> Hope that's helpful. >>>> Brian >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Benny Christensen < >>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>> >>>> I might suggest that if you have lower back issues, maybe you need to >>>> try a stool where you can keep moving and strengthen your core. >>>> >>>> I am looking at a KORE Stool myself. http://www.korestool.com >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Benny Christensen >>>> Producers Playhouse >>>> Oklahoma City >>>> 405-858-0700 >>>> >>>> "Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?" - Redd Foxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Teddy Gage >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well Dann maybe I will look into trying the large Aeron, last time I >>>> am pretty sure I was in a medium or even small, and I'm over six foot = so >>>> like I said, could have been a size issue. My problem with the arms ha= d >>>> more to do with angle and width than position adjustability though, wh= ich >>>> is not as easily fixed. >>>> >>>> However I was hoping there were great alternatives and all I've seen >>>> suggested is the steelcase leap so far... Which is at the top end of m= y >>>> price range, although much cheaper than back surgery. Gotta go find a = place >>>> I can try them out as opposed to ordering sight-unseen on the web. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Dann Stubbs >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> i=E2=80=99ve got two of them at two desks side by side - put the sett= ings the >>>>> same on each and i can get up and move from workstation to workstatio= n and >>>>> don=E2=80=99t even feel like i=E2=80=99ve moved chairs. >>>>> >>>>> also mine are now 16+ years old! (gasp) and still look and feel like >>>>> brand new. >>>>> >>>>> i don=E2=80=99t have any excessive lint issues on them at all, wear m= ostly >>>>> lightweight clothing (florida) and cottons etc=E2=80=A6 maybe once a = year i >>>>> remember to take the vacuum hose and do a light dusting on the lower = chair >>>>> legs but no real shredding issues that i see, but i try hard for a fa= irly >>>>> clean environment since it=E2=80=99s computers ya know=E2=80=A6 helps= them run cooler too >>>>> and not build up the heat mat of dust inside either. >>>>> >>>>> i did see a few in our past office that people abused, but they reall= y >>>>> are tough chairs. mine are the fully articulated one (i think those = =E2=80=9Cdumbed >>>>> down ones=E2=80=9D came later as a cost saving measure to compete wit= h the look >>>>> alikes) >>>>> >>>>> before i bit the bullet and got these (list price used to be $1200 >>>>> each when i got them) i used to get expensive =E2=80=9Coffice=E2=80= =9D chairs ($200-$300 >>>>> each) and literally had to toss them away after a year, two max - jus= t >>>>> crushed them with my long days sitting. these have probably 12 hours= a day >>>>> for the past 16 years=E2=80=A6 some days probably 24+ hours, some a b= it less (i=E2=80=99m >>>>> not good at taking vacations) >>>>> >>>>> i=E2=80=99m an ex athlete person (played hockey for 20+ years), still= pretty >>>>> solid and heavy for my size and age at 5=E2=80=99 10=E2=80=9D - yeah = with my age now i=E2=80=99ve >>>>> got an extra 20 lbs hanging around but for the past twenty years i=E2= =80=99ve been >>>>> 200-225LB and the chairs don=E2=80=99t mind at all. not some skinny l= ightweight on >>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> probably the best office tool i ever purchased. they are a bit firm, >>>>> but i personally like firm seats, beds etc=E2=80=A6 don=E2=80=99t car= e for soft or mushy >>>>> things. >>>>> >>>>> but then again, everyone is different but i=E2=80=99d be really sad i= f i lost >>>>> these chairs. sorry to hear you could not find a good setting for you= =E2=80=A6 >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com >>>>> Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >>>>> >>>>> http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced >>>>> C4D, VRAY Render Farm >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> =E2=80=9CYou can ignore reality, but you can=E2=80=99t ignore the con= sequences of >>>>> ignoring reality.=E2=80=9D -Ayn Rand >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Richard Bajjalieh < >>>>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Did you get the fully articulated version? There is a Aeron version >>>>> that looks the same but lacks all the adjustments. >>>>> >>>>> I have had one for years; I have serious back issues, 2 collapsed >>>>> discs in my lower lumbar, it=E2=80=99s the only chair I can sit in fo= r an extended >>>>> time. When the seat broke I called HM to get a replacement part and t= hey >>>>> sent me a new chair for free. Seriously don=E2=80=99t know how I=E2= =80=99d work without it. >>>>> >>>>> Everyone=E2=80=99s different but I=E2=80=99m surprised you couldn=E2= =80=99t find a comfortable >>>>> position unless you had the =E2=80=98dumbed down=E2=80=99 version. >>>>> >>>>> *Rich Bajjalieh* >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Teddy Gage [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv >>>>> ] >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:00 PM >>>>> *To:* After Effects Mail List >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AE] [OT] Best office chairs? >>>>> >>>>> I thought the seat was uncomfortable and the arms had no good working >>>>> positions. Maybe it was a size thing, but I was unimpressed >>>>> -TG >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Dann Stubbs >>>>> wrote: >>>>> really? i love my aeron=E2=80=99s >>>>> >>>>> are you short or tall perhaps? >>>>> >>>>> there are three sizes of aeron - on the top back under the lip feel >>>>> and there are dimples - one for small, two for medium and three for l= arge >>>>> chair size >>>>> >>>>> i=E2=80=99m 5=E2=80=99 10 and the medium fits me great, just get it = adjusted right >>>>> and you can also flip the lumbar over to have two levels of lower bac= k >>>>> support (pull it up and off the chair back and flip it over - you can= see >>>>> there are two =E2=80=9Cdepths=E2=80=9D then slide it back on) >>>>> >>>>> only people i=E2=80=99ve heard of that really did not like the aeron= =E2=80=99s in >>>>> our previous office of 100+ were people either too big or too small f= or the >>>>> medium sized chairs we had >>>>> >>>>> dann >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Dann Stubbs - dann@darkskydigital.com >>>>> Dark Sky Digital - http://www.darkskydigital.com >>>>> >>>>> http://www.RenderKing.com Value Priced >>>>> C4D, VRAY Render Farm >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> =E2=80=9CYou can ignore reality, but you can=E2=80=99t ignore the con= sequences of >>>>> ignoring reality.=E2=80=9D -Ayn Rand >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Teddy Gage >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looking for good lower back support. Tried the Aeron chair for a whil= e >>>>> but hated it. Anything people swear by in this industry of sitting? H= ave a >>>>> reasonable budget for something well-built. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _____________________________ >>>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>>> teddygage dot com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> _____________________________ >>>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>>> teddygage dot com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _____________________________ >>>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>>> teddygage dot com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________ >>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>> teddygage dot com >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com > --001a11c1a2203777fb04fef52c8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mesh w/ lots of support. I love it. Most of the settings h= ave just been a 'set it and forget it' type of thing; everything= 9;s great.

Zack Lovatt
416.786.4129


On 24 July 2014 13:55, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
What do you think about the Embody? How comfortable is the= actual seat? Is it deep foam or mesh?

=
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 1:58= PM, Zack Lovatt <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
As an= alternative to the Aeron, tried out a bunch of chairs in different various= stores around town, and ended up ordering the Embody online. Ordering onli= ne (either through Herman Miller or a reseller), you get all sorts of cusot= mization options to make it suit your needs specifically; how much adjustme= nt options do you want? What size for the seat? Arms / no arms? Upgraded ca= sters? Fancy colours/more breathable materials? etc.



On 23 July 2014 13:= 02, Dann Stubbs <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
i myself do get up= a lot. always up and down, also that is one reason i got the two chairs, i= liked it better getting up to move between them rather then just rolling o= ver to the other desk.

in our previous office we had a RSI person come in too - the= re were some common things most people did wrong, don=E2=80=99t dangle your= feet, nor chair too low. back position etc - most adjusted but usually wen= t back to their old habits anyway. as a last resort before i bough the aero= ns after giving up on all the =E2=80=9Coffice=E2=80=9D chairs i even used o= ne of those knee chairs (anyone else remember those) like a kneeling scoote= r - it was ok but just seemed to shift the body issues elsewhere for me.

i had a few terrible years of wrist pain long ago, but = the aerons and a proper desk height cured that - been years since i=E2=80= =99ve had that carpel tunnel pain=E2=80=A6

it is w= hat fits you and your body best, i just have had excellent results with my = aerons so it=E2=80=99s what suits you best (i bet at your height you would = need the large aeron for sure - most offices i go to seem to be the medium)= once you know the dimple thing about aerons i will often check other chair= s at other places to see the size - though once you are used to seeing the = different sizes you can usually tell the apart easily enough.

=C2=A0- one thing that i noticed with other =E2=80=9Cpa= dded=E2=80=9D chairs is that i would crush the padding and eventually i cou= ld feel myself sitting on the hard plywood underneath (or plastic in some c= ases)

not to get gross - but there is the dreaded H word that can come= from sitting too much - especially on hard surfaces and my first sign of t= hat issue all those years ago made me change my sitting habits right away. = very happy to say that i=E2=80=99ve not ever had H issues since, i=E2=80=99= d like to think the good support of the aeron as well as the vented design = helps with a good sitting temperature so your not too hot in your butt and = legs etc - etc another positive as we get older and our bodies fall apart.<= /div>

again not to get gross or into too much info - my dad a= lways had H issues, so i grew up hearing all the issues with it and just th= ought everyone had those problems at they got older and i supposed that i w= as going to be the same way when i got older - and am so happy that i don= =E2=80=99t have the same problems. i wonder if it was the chairs they had i= n their offices that contributed.

but we who make living sitting on our butts have many s= ame worries like lower back issue, etc=E2=80=A6 so better to share the info= . chairs are like a good bicycle - it needs to fit your size and body dimen= sions - they aren=E2=80=99t really one size fits all (though you can use on= e that way, long term your body will feel it)

good luck and i hope you can find a chair that fi= ts your needs perfect.

=
dann
___________________________________________________________________

Dann Stubbs=C2=A0=C2=A0-=C2=A0=C2=A0dann@darkskydigital.com
Dark Sky Digital -=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.darkskydigital.com

http://www.RenderKi= ng.com=C2=A0=C2=A0Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm
___________________________________________________________________

=E2=80=9CYou can ignore reality, but you= can=E2=80=99t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.=E2=80=9D -Ayn R= and

<= /div>


On Jul 23, 2014, = at 12:39 PM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

And to add to that, I use to work at an office that had an ergonomics speci= alist on staff. The thing that stuck with me she said even though there are= some general things you can do to improve RSIs and back pain, "it'= ;s not about a single perfect position or chair, it's about changing yo= ur setup constantly" - change your chair height, arm height, lumbar po= sition, even chairs entirely, never stay in the same position day in day ou= t. it's the repetition of singular stresses that wear out that weak lin= k in your body.=C2=A0

I am pretty sure I have some kind of sciatica, but I do yoga= with my wife, I lift weights, I do core and stamina training... I have los= t over 30lbs in the last year and it has improved my back pain dramatically= . But there's still only so much you can do when you sit all day, and I= am literally wearing out my current chair, so it's time for an upgrade= .=C2=A0

I also get up at least 2x an hour, I am easily distract= ed, so that's nice. Ironically I never had back pain when I was a smoke= r because of all the breaks I took. But all other aspects of my life have a= lso improved dramatically since I quit, so it's a fair trade.


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Bria= n Klein <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
My recommendation= is to find a chair=C2=A0that fits you best. It might be any of the Aeron m= odels mentioned, but you might find a perfectly suitable chair at Costco. A= eron's would certainly look more impressive, if that is a factor. =C2= =A0You might want to consult with an ergonomic specialist to help you make = a good decision? It might be worth it, especially if you are considering sp= ending a lot of money on an Aeron.

Also, I have had bouts of low back pain myself, and my= =C2=A0recommendation would be to work with a good trainer to strengthen you= r core, and make sure you are getting up every 30 minutes to move around. S= taying in the same position hours on end is likely more of an issue=C2=A0th= an even sitting in a bad chair.

Hope that's helpful.
Brian


On Jul 23, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Benny Christe= nsen <AE-Li= st@media-motion.tv> wrote:

I might suggest that = if you have lower back issues, maybe you need to try a stool where you can = keep moving and strengthen your core.

I am looking at a KORE Stool myself.=C2=A0http://www.korestool.com

Thanks.

Benny Christensen
Producers Playhouse
<= div>Oklahoma City

&quo= t;Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?"=C2=A0- Redd Fo= xx






On Jul 23= , 2014, at 10:19 AM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Well Dann maybe I will look into trying the large Aeron, last time I am pre= tty sure I was in a medium or even small, and I'm over six foot so like= I said, could have been a size issue. My problem with the arms had more to= do with angle and width than position adjustability though, which is not a= s easily fixed.=C2=A0

However I was hoping there were great alternatives and all I= 've seen suggested is the steelcase leap so far... Which is at the top = end of my price range, although much cheaper than back surgery. Gotta go fi= nd a place I can try them out as opposed to ordering sight-unseen on the we= b.





= On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Dann Stubbs <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:
i=E2=80=99ve got two of them at two desks side b= y side - put the settings the same on each and i can get up and move from w= orkstation to workstation and don=E2=80=99t even feel like i=E2=80=99ve mov= ed chairs.

also mine are now 16+ years old! (gasp) and still look and f= eel like brand new.

i don=E2=80=99t have any exces= sive lint issues on them at all, wear mostly lightweight clothing (florida)= and cottons etc=E2=80=A6 maybe once a year i remember to take the vacuum h= ose and do a light dusting on the lower chair legs but no real shredding is= sues that i see, but i try hard for a fairly clean environment since it=E2= =80=99s computers ya know=E2=80=A6 helps them run cooler too and not build = up the heat mat of dust inside either.

i did see a few in our past office that people abused, = but they really are tough chairs. mine are the fully articulated one (i thi= nk those =E2=80=9Cdumbed down ones=E2=80=9D came later as a cost saving mea= sure to compete with the look alikes)

before i bit the bullet and got these (list price used = to be $1200 each when i got them) i used to get expensive =E2=80=9Coffice= =E2=80=9D chairs ($200-$300 each) and literally had to toss them away after= a year, two max - just crushed them with my long days sitting. these have = probably 12 =C2=A0hours a day for the past 16 years=E2=80=A6 some days prob= ably 24+ hours, some a bit less (i=E2=80=99m not good at taking vacations)<= /div>

i=E2=80=99m an ex athlete person (played hockey for 20+= years), still pretty solid and heavy for my size and age at 5=E2=80=99 10= =E2=80=9D - yeah with my age now i=E2=80=99ve got an extra 20 lbs hanging a= round but for the past twenty years i=E2=80=99ve been 200-225LB and the cha= irs don=E2=80=99t mind at all. not some skinny lightweight on them.

probably the best office tool i ever purchased. they ar= e a bit firm, but i personally like firm seats, beds etc=E2=80=A6 don=E2=80= =99t care for soft or mushy things.

but then again= , everyone is different but i=E2=80=99d be really sad if i lost these chair= s. sorry to hear you could not find a good setting for you=E2=80=A6

___________________________________________________________________

Dann Stubbs=C2=A0=C2=A0-=C2=A0=C2=A0dann@darkskydigital.com
Dark Sky Digital -=C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.darkskydigital.com

http://www.RenderK= ing.com=C2=A0=C2=A0Value Priced C4D, VRAY Render Farm
___________________________________________________________________

<= span face=3D"Verdana" style=3D"font-family:Verdana">=E2=80=9CYou can ignore= reality, but you can=E2=80=99t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality= .=E2=80=9D -Ayn Rand



On = Jul 22, 2014, at 5:13 PM, Richard Bajjalieh <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Did you get the = fully articulated version? There is a Aeron version that looks the same but= lacks all the adjustments.
=C2=A0
I have had one for years; I have serious back issues, 2 collapsed d= iscs in my lower lumbar, it=E2=80=99s the only chair I can sit in for an ex= tended time. When the seat broke I called HM to get a replacement part and = they sent me a new chair for free. Seriously don=E2=80=99t know how I=E2=80= =99d work without it.
=C2=A0
Everyone=E2=80=99s different but I=E2=80=99m surprised you couldn= =E2=80=99t find a comfortable position unless you had the =E2=80=98dumbed d= own=E2=80=99 version.
=C2=A0
Rich Bajjalieh
=
=C2=A0
From:=C2=A0Teddy Gage [mailto:AE-List@media-motion= .tv]=C2=A0
Sent:=C2=A0Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:00 PMTo:=C2=A0After Effects Mail List
= Subject:=C2=A0Re: [AE] [OT] Best office chairs?
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I thought the seat was uncomfortable and the arms had no good working posit= ions. Maybe it was a size thing, but I was unimpressed
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On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Dann Stubbs &= lt;AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote= :
really= ? i love my aeron=E2=80=99s
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are you short or tall perhaps?
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= there are three sizes of aeron - on the top back under the lip feel and the= re are dimples - one for small, two for medium and three for large chair si= ze
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i=E2=80=99m 5=E2=80=99 10 and the medium fits = me great, just get it adjusted right and you can also flip the lumbar over = to have two levels of lower back support (pull it up and off the chair back= and flip it over - you can see there are two =E2=80=9Cdepths=E2=80=9D then= slide it back on)
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only people i=E2=80=99ve heard of that really = did not like the aeron=E2=80=99s in our previous office of 100+ were people= either too big or too small for the medium sized chairs we had
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On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:00 PM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:


Looking for good lower back support. Tried the= Aeron chair for a while but hated it. Anything people swear by in this ind= ustry of sitting? Have a reasonable budget for something well-built.=C2=A0<= span style=3D"text-decoration:underline">
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