From: "scott.aelist" Received: from mail-wi0-f176.google.com ([209.85.212.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5536363 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 03:42:45 +0200 Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id bs8so3624472wib.9 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:42:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=GT2MeROZ6KIR6SIy7rwvk60XpsGcyk/wiQydggq/4+8=; b=Sk/yHwEZpFUm/9cRvMXSPN+qxj4gO6YsGmnU0pgtXM0gCg5Y6vYXxH2y9o2L5FyBOp 92+bCvZtAJP7Ja1tdLswEap61NFDu/Ve/4iVF1K2kYqyXF1GaFnLFP1bRXonILj/xKB/ djFCB5saOlsi90St2tRz2XKUe16AAePrwl7DEtC3pz8Y9XvfcTotTSzwApAsiCmlJj3w FFWBEqVCXHlw8E1/0SI9HgUGeV/YfbDliTvLfE0CP+rFcCP09LO0Adf36O5u+fzDXd86 WHTcCk5asMYEOWmjhGYzGd5sARX8N7KHA4tM4fQvs280K5e1bg+vsiUo33UMoHdmg8db jfCA== X-Received: by 10.180.212.113 with SMTP id nj17mr25630234wic.46.1406511765854; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:42:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: hedczech@gmail.com Received: by 10.217.66.3 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:42:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:42:05 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Z_e1ejgWwA7ZEd7LbYmKp8DSRAg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Looking for Recommendations on Creating Blur Matte To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c240542d243004ff370a72 --001a11c240542d243004ff370a72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 can you post a still or a redacted still? On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > Hello All, > > Ok, so I've got an odd one here. I am doing VFX for this movie and in two > scenes, the folks basically filmed at a location in which they did not have > pre-approval. Soooo, at first they wanted me to attempt to change the > entire background so that you could not tell it was the original place. > > I spent many days changing out ceiling lights, adding an exit sign, a map > on wall, etc but that did not seem to be enough. After exhausting myself > trying to explain that what they were asking was for someone to completely > rotoscope out several people, with lots of movement, etc and it just was > not doable. I tried to roto even one person out but with the amount of > movement, hair flying around, etc, it was not within my ability. > > I think even a roto expert would be shying away from this. So, that's the > background. > > Now, the approach has changed to them asking me to give it more of like a > camera depth thing where I just blur all of the background. That too has > it's challenges but masking and feathering out a blur adjustment layer is > definitely less noticeable than the roto deal. > > However, the amount of blur they want seems pretty excessive and as you > might imagine, the more blur, the more likely it will be noticeable as you > try to gradually feather out edges as the meet the person in the foreground. > > I was trying to do something like create a matte using the much lighter > background (the wall is white) and then just blur that layer. > > So, I'm looking for ideas on an approach that one of you smart folks here > might have. > > Thanks ahead. > > Eric > > -- > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* > > *www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com * > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > * > > --001a11c240542d243004ff370a72 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
can you post a still or a redacted still?


On Sun, Jul 27, 2014= at 5:40 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hello All,

Ok, so I've got an odd one here. =A0I am doing VFX for this movie an= d in two scenes, the folks basically filmed at a location in which they did= not have pre-approval. =A0Soooo, at first they wanted me to attempt to cha= nge the entire background so that you could not tell it was the original pl= ace.

I spent many days changing out ceiling lights, adding a= n exit sign, a map on wall, etc but that did not seem to be enough. =A0Afte= r exhausting myself trying to explain that what they were asking was for so= meone to completely rotoscope out several people, with lots of movement, et= c and it just was not doable. =A0I tried to roto even one person out but wi= th the amount of movement, hair flying around, etc, it was not within my ab= ility.

I think even a roto expert would be shying away from th= is. =A0So, that's the background.

Now, the app= roach has changed to them asking me to give it more of like a camera depth = thing where I just blur all of the background. =A0That too has it's cha= llenges but masking and feathering out a blur adjustment layer is definitel= y less noticeable than the roto deal.

However, the amount of blur they want seems pretty exce= ssive and as you might imagine, the more blur, the more likely it will be n= oticeable as you try to gradually feather out edges as the meet the person = in the foreground.

I was trying to do something like create a matte using = the much lighter background (the wall is white) and then just blur that lay= er.

So, I'm looking for ideas on an approach t= hat one of you smart folks here might have.

Thanks ahead.

Eric

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Eric D. Kirk |=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
<= div>www.kir= kproductions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
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