From: "Victoria Nece" Received: from mail-we0-f176.google.com ([74.125.82.176] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5536818 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 18:16:25 +0200 Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id q58so7505775wes.7 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:16:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QU21Bmv3tQSSoi8A7UkMchNrkuIQVxmzkqzRgZTqEfQ=; b=chqnbMvLOKYKSi25XvIEzUwSYxUDCzTOaxlcfT9VocQ3lWnfh4I1JFU8nJpJAO23+D +1xPEBUXp5bMhR5IyR5LXlcentgHy1DcLS1/iviDgJ1aqgr0yJXMIK6O+ZN916Sb1yz2 IDwef1RhawY/ryFY/ls0cMTyzbHKRS6CJxgfbcCAT0o/N6kqCunkJQ0UEhsIWxkuT5qo Eil2FOcWKbjIvTu1SjQb4RG0IQ7Mol2nwgQCp56NLyhFvxwAtMsdVqJNXW8dGcgt3MBu 1ugWdrZy8Eheq2qDlHZhLdVbz06Pj6ENvjypmYj+ByYEVDVas21f4s8jTROYpOgu6Qp0 TstA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.79.202 with SMTP id l10mr32040485wix.18.1406564180802; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.39.242 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.39.242 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:16:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:16:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Looking for Recommendations on Creating Blur Matte To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0442868459c3e504ff433e7c --f46d0442868459c3e504ff433e7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Is the background already a little soft? I wonder if it might be possible to batch through the frames using Photoshop's new feature that automatically creates mattes based on out of focus pixels? Victoria On Jul 27, 2014 9:43 PM, "scott.aelist" wrote: > can you post a still or a redacted still? > > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk > wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> Ok, so I've got an odd one here. I am doing VFX for this movie and in >> two scenes, the folks basically filmed at a location in which they did not >> have pre-approval. Soooo, at first they wanted me to attempt to change the >> entire background so that you could not tell it was the original place. >> >> I spent many days changing out ceiling lights, adding an exit sign, a map >> on wall, etc but that did not seem to be enough. After exhausting myself >> trying to explain that what they were asking was for someone to completely >> rotoscope out several people, with lots of movement, etc and it just was >> not doable. I tried to roto even one person out but with the amount of >> movement, hair flying around, etc, it was not within my ability. >> >> I think even a roto expert would be shying away from this. So, that's >> the background. >> >> Now, the approach has changed to them asking me to give it more of like a >> camera depth thing where I just blur all of the background. That too has >> it's challenges but masking and feathering out a blur adjustment layer is >> definitely less noticeable than the roto deal. >> >> However, the amount of blur they want seems pretty excessive and as you >> might imagine, the more blur, the more likely it will be noticeable as you >> try to gradually feather out edges as the meet the person in the foreground. >> >> I was trying to do something like create a matte using the much lighter >> background (the wall is white) and then just blur that layer. >> >> So, I'm looking for ideas on an approach that one of you smart folks here >> might have. >> >> Thanks ahead. >> >> Eric >> >> -- >> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >> >> *www.kirkproductions.com >> kirkproductions@gmail.com * >> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >> * >> >> > > --f46d0442868459c3e504ff433e7c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Is the background already a little soft? I wonder if it might be possibl= e to batch through the frames using Photoshop's new feature that automa= tically creates mattes based on out of focus pixels?

Victoria

On Jul 27, 2014 9:43 PM, "scott.aelist"= ; <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
can you post a still or a redacted still?


On Sun, Jul 27, 2014= at 5:40 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hello All,

Ok, so I've got an odd one here. =C2=A0I am doing VFX for this movie= and in two scenes, the folks basically filmed at a location in which they = did not have pre-approval. =C2=A0Soooo, at first they wanted me to attempt = to change the entire background so that you could not tell it was the origi= nal place.

I spent many days changing out ceiling lights, adding a= n exit sign, a map on wall, etc but that did not seem to be enough. =C2=A0A= fter exhausting myself trying to explain that what they were asking was for= someone to completely rotoscope out several people, with lots of movement,= etc and it just was not doable. =C2=A0I tried to roto even one person out = but with the amount of movement, hair flying around, etc, it was not within= my ability.

I think even a roto expert would be shying away from th= is. =C2=A0So, that's the background.

Now, the = approach has changed to them asking me to give it more of like a camera dep= th thing where I just blur all of the background. =C2=A0That too has it'= ;s challenges but masking and feathering out a blur adjustment layer is def= initely less noticeable than the roto deal.

However, the amount of blur they want seems pretty exce= ssive and as you might imagine, the more blur, the more likely it will be n= oticeable as you try to gradually feather out edges as the meet the person = in the foreground.

I was trying to do something like create a matte using = the much lighter background (the wall is white) and then just blur that lay= er.

So, I'm looking for ideas on an approach t= hat one of you smart folks here might have.

Thanks ahead.
<= br>
Eric

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Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
<= div>www.kir= kproductions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
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