From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com ([209.85.212.181] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5536895 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:19:03 +0200 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id bs8so4727803wib.8 for ; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:19:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=hckggHaSueONJsqeocpssddKfJ5Y4oh9thncyspiL44=; b=n263PXseNvf53dLC6tzzdE4oDoRfuIfGENrwMjlFtAIUYMhI9imJde7Fj/yx1hVPEX XlaCVkUfyVW/iCCugakGiQZQpEU66EtyjM4k3pMeqajBFRhVbdUnzUWQDlN1HMMkcC6Z SHJJkLNiMLx5pFgDak2cb8cbQz00Mfd5KKQhzJzHumRLUvuZKtq49tDMpHQKswXXd9d4 RxImYFCbjYb92s+8aokUII6+OziY5jYIp0AvsuVqU0hHxOSe6dzo6N3zIehqn32H8S/E wJw/NO+Xs0eRmv7pqdis+RU3QHYPaz3lw1vrJw6YmNnUNetQcJNX96MuyV91gMwLUvBB BYYQ== X-Received: by 10.194.187.4 with SMTP id fo4mr51180985wjc.35.1406567942949; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:19:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.25.232 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:18:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Looking for Recommendations on Creating Blur Matte To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bb044e297908104ff441ee1 --047d7bb044e297908104ff441ee1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Yes, I believe it WILL look weird. They just don't want to lose the shot. After they zoomed in though, my thoughts were that they had nothing to be concerned about on the room. I'm not the legal expert though and who knows what someone will complain over but with the exception of that badly placed clock, everything seems pretty generic. But then again, if it were me, I'd just solicit the property owners to provide the approval. Are people that mean these days? I mean somehow, they got the building to start with.....who knows. lol Eric On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:14 PM, pixelbot wrote: > wouldn't adding depth of field to such a shallow short look weird? you > could mock up a frame and then tell them it cost a fortune so you could > outsource to a rotoguy > > tt > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Mail, After" > *To: *"Mail, After" > *Sent: *Monday, July 28, 2014 9:52:30 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AE] Looking for Recommendations on Creating Blur Matte > > Hi Victoria, > > Another gentleman asked last night but I just now uploaded a still to show > what I'm up against and it's pretty much various angles of this, now zoomed > in quite a bit. For example, right now, the picture on the right no longer > even shows. > > http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee327/kirkeric/OfficeStillKIRK.jpg > > Eric > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Victoria Nece > wrote: > >> Is the background already a little soft? I wonder if it might be possible >> to batch through the frames using Photoshop's new feature that >> automatically creates mattes based on out of focus pixels? >> >> Victoria >> On Jul 27, 2014 9:43 PM, "scott.aelist" wrote: >> >>> can you post a still or a redacted still? >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk < >>> AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> Ok, so I've got an odd one here. I am doing VFX for this movie and in >>>> two scenes, the folks basically filmed at a location in which they did not >>>> have pre-approval. Soooo, at first they wanted me to attempt to change the >>>> entire background so that you could not tell it was the original place. >>>> >>>> I spent many days changing out ceiling lights, adding an exit sign, a >>>> map on wall, etc but that did not seem to be enough. After exhausting >>>> myself trying to explain that what they were asking was for someone to >>>> completely rotoscope out several people, with lots of movement, etc and it >>>> just was not doable. I tried to roto even one person out but with the >>>> amount of movement, hair flying around, etc, it was not within my ability. >>>> >>>> I think even a roto expert would be shying away from this. So, that's >>>> the background. >>>> >>>> Now, the approach has changed to them asking me to give it more of like >>>> a camera depth thing where I just blur all of the background. That too has >>>> it's challenges but masking and feathering out a blur adjustment layer is >>>> definitely less noticeable than the roto deal. >>>> >>>> However, the amount of blur they want seems pretty excessive and as you >>>> might imagine, the more blur, the more likely it will be noticeable as you >>>> try to gradually feather out edges as the meet the person in the foreground. >>>> >>>> I was trying to do something like create a matte using the much lighter >>>> background (the wall is white) and then just blur that layer. >>>> >>>> So, I'm looking for ideas on an approach that one of you smart folks >>>> here might have. >>>> >>>> Thanks ahead. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>> >>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com * >>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > > > -- > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* > > *www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > * > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > * > > > -- *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347* *www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com * *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --047d7bb044e297908104ff441ee1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, I believe it WILL look weird.=C2=A0 They just do= n't want to lose the shot.
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After they zoomed= in though, my thoughts were that they had nothing to be concerned about on= the room.=C2=A0 I'm not the legal expert though and who knows what som= eone will complain over but with the exception of that badly placed clock, = everything seems pretty generic.
=C2=A0
But then again, if it were me, I'd just solicit t= he property owners to provide the approval.=C2=A0 Are people that mean thes= e days?=C2=A0 I mean somehow, they got the building to start with.....who k= nows. lol
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Eric


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:14 PM, pixelbot <= AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
wouldn't adding depth of field to such a= shallow short look weird? you could mock up a frame and then tell them it = cost a fortune so you could outsource to a rotoguy

tt

From: "Mail, After&quo= t; <AE-List= @media-motion.tv>
To: "Mail, After" <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
Sent: Mo= nday, July 28, 2014 9:52:30 AM
Subject: Re: [AE] Looking for Reco= mmendations on Creating Blur Matte

Hi Victoria,
=C2=A0
Another gentleman asked last night but I just now uploaded a still to sho= w what I'm up against and it's pretty much various angles of this, = now zoomed in quite a bit.=C2=A0 For example, right now, the picture on the= right no longer even shows.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Er= ic


On= Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Victoria Nece <AE-List@media-motion.= tv> wrote:

Is the background already a little soft? I wonder if it= might be possible to batch through the frames using Photoshop's new fe= ature that automatically creates mattes based on out of focus pixels?

Victoria

On Jul 27, 2014 9:43 PM, "sc= ott.aelist" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
can you post a still or a redacted still?


On Sun, J= ul 27, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hello All,

Ok, so I= 9;ve got an odd one here. =C2=A0I am doing VFX for this movie and in two sc= enes, the folks basically filmed at a location in which they did not have p= re-approval. =C2=A0Soooo, at first they wanted me to attempt to change the = entire background so that you could not tell it was the original place.

I spent many days changing out ceiling lights, adding a= n exit sign, a map on wall, etc but that did not seem to be enough. =C2=A0A= fter exhausting myself trying to explain that what they were asking was for= someone to completely rotoscope out several people, with lots of movement,= etc and it just was not doable. =C2=A0I tried to roto even one person out = but with the amount of movement, hair flying around, etc, it was not within= my ability.

I think even a roto expert would be shying away from th= is. =C2=A0So, that's the background.

Now, the = approach has changed to them asking me to give it more of like a camera dep= th thing where I just blur all of the background. =C2=A0That too has it'= ;s challenges but masking and feathering out a blur adjustment layer is def= initely less noticeable than the roto deal.

However, the amount of blur they want seems pretty exce= ssive and as you might imagine, the more blur, the more likely it will be n= oticeable as you try to gradually feather out edges as the meet the person = in the foreground.

I was trying to do something like create a matte using = the much lighter background (the wall is white) and then just blur that lay= er.

So, I'm looking for ideas on an approach t= hat one of you smart folks here might have.

Thanks ahead.




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Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0<= /b>Kirk Productions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
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Hidd= en in the Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
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