From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-ig0-f169.google.com ([209.85.213.169] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5541804 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 22:25:33 +0200 Received: by mail-ig0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r2so9370978igi.0 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:25:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=w+EYy/g1TM7nZgBk3yDZ5lfmY294t0hrReCgPffU1kI=; b=EE/LporxEFfdR27Der5MaFvriAAyuVuMbT6fNT1SUWuuEclyLrpHLNVmDg1EenHT72 mNbP3JYGkl4Ix9rDu4vDhGk9/rY1E//k6QbWa0DuT4VHs3qHAO/SB0WF+wUVeGOfAP3W KhTRBbZwjHuSoE6YakBUvB8kpMUqTS9RarETE9lR6ceLNaF2ulDOudvWa9KCKUJeXG8m eJSrRQMaHBroK4nP7ar948Wv0kIBAr6SGifJR0vA36rR4slV0CJvlK+HRP/jDCFwatfl nlHZEclMVzoQpUDIQxMi5hYz4WU8JqN4s9xnscov0PpjT74uCZpt9EukuJLgSIvQ5BlI 3Lew== X-Received: by 10.43.149.200 with SMTP id kl8mr8937423icc.52.1407270332998; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:25:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.56.50 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:25:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:25:12 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Use of 4K Cameras To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c305544d29e104ffe7a837 --001a11c305544d29e104ffe7a837 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Brian and Robert, Some good points. I'm also aware of the issue with that Black Magic camera and the scan lines or whatever it is. I've been in touch with one of the senior guys/salesman and mentioned all that as well. Definitely makes me want to re-think whether I go there in the near future. It seems at this point that maybe my Panasonic HMC150 is still a pretty good fella along with some more mobile high end small HD cams. I did also note that 30 min limit thing. Thanks. Eric On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Brian Maffitt wrote: > It depends entirely on the kind of things you want to shoot. > > 4K currently has little real to-market delivery path, but it is a useful > acquisition format for post work, since there are so many pixels to work > with, crop in on etc. "Shoot now-Frame later" is a viable strategy with 4K. > And it is relatively future-proof, I suppose, if we all believe 4K is an > inevitable delivery format. > > As for your second question, a DSLR is a fine way to aquire video if you > are accustomed to operating a film camera. If, however, you need things > like fast auto-focus while recording, wide field of focus and smooth, > motorized zoom, these things are harder to come by in the DSLR world. Also, > unmodified DSLRs in the US are not allowed to record a clip longer than 30 > minutes (for tax reasons!), so if you need to shoot long events, a "real" > video camera is your best bet... or plan to budget for an external drive > like the Blackmagic HyperDeck Shuttle. > > I do shoot video with my 5D Mk III, but all of the add-ons make it much > more cumbersome than a dedicated video camera, especially for walking > around. > > No issues that I'm aware of with any of this and AE. > > Brian > > On 8/5/2014 3:48:20 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk wrote: > Any thoughts out there on moving to 4K cameras? I've been studying up on > the Black Magic and hearing also about the GH4. Maybe it's just me but is > a DSLR type camera a logical transition from the more customary video > camera? I presume this is all no problem for using in after effects. > > Appreciate the feedback. > > Eric > > -- > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* > > *www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com * > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > * > > > -- *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* *The Night Visitor | VFX* *443.206.1347* *www.kirkproductions.com kirkproductions@gmail.com * *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ * --001a11c305544d29e104ffe7a837 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Brian and Robert,
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S= ome good points.=C2=A0 I'm also aware of the issue with that Black Magi= c camera and the scan lines or whatever it is. I've been in touch with = one of the senior guys/salesman and mentioned all that as well.=C2=A0 Defin= itely=C2=A0makes me want to re-think whether I go there in the near future.= =C2=A0 It seems at this point that maybe my Panasonic HMC150 is still a pre= tty good fella along with some more mobile high end small HD cams.
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I did also note that 30 min limit thing.=C2=A0 Thanks= .

Eric


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Brian Maffitt <A= E-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
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It depends entirely on the kind of things you want to shoot.
4K currently has little real to-market deliver= y path, but it is a useful acquisition format for post work, since there ar= e so many pixels to work with, crop in on etc. "Shoot now-Frame later&= quot; is a viable strategy with 4K. =C2=A0And it is relatively future-proof= , I suppose, if we all believe 4K is an inevitable delivery format.

As for your second question, a DSLR is a fine way to aquire video if yo= u are accustomed to operating a film camera. If, however, you need things l= ike fast auto-focus while recording, wide field of focus and smooth, motori= zed zoom, these things are harder to come by in the DSLR world. Also, unmod= ified DSLRs in the US are not allowed to record a clip longer than 30 minut= es (for tax reasons!), so if you need to shoot long events, a "real&qu= ot; video camera is your best bet... or plan to budget for an external driv= e like the Blackmagic HyperDeck Shuttle.

I do shoot video with my 5D Mk III, but all of the add-ons ma= ke it much more cumbersome than a dedicated video camera, especially for wa= lking around.

No i= ssues that I'm aware of with any of this and AE.

Brian

On 8/5/2014 3:48:20 PM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <ae-list@media-motion.tv&= gt; wrote:

Any thoughts out there on moving to 4K cameras?=C2=A0= I've been studying up on the Black Magic and hearing also about the GH= 4.=C2=A0 Maybe it's just me but is a DSLR type camera a logical transit= ion from the more customary video camera?=C2=A0 I presume this is all no pr= oblem for using in after effects.
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Appreciate the feedback.
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E= ric

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Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk Productions
Hidden in t= he Woods | VFX
The Night Visitor | VFX
<= div>www.kir= kproductions.com
kirkproducti= ons@gmail.com
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Eric D. Kirk |=C2=A0Kirk P= roductions
Hidden in the Woods | VFX
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443.206.1347
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