From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Christensen?=" Received: from homiemail-a95.g.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.135] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5545068 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 19:08:18 +0200 Received: from homiemail-a95.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a95.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B2C1E071 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=desilence.net; h=from :content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to; s=desilence.net; bh=9EpsZi9H/pFQIjx1m5YlAoHGPDE=; b=ew9me77/q35CTTYFfGZD2qVnsri/Lp5ea34q9jECGr3F9Mb4N5hULQESzHQqk N2ddVVm6P69wcBkL5/UfEqUZ5m5Yb8A88q9Lj56kaoJlQRTwSIy13ac3xpEAjPzM 8AOCmw4hQ+Y4Bx3c06dzbg/vbTw4d1dwezHuTbpbDTg6OI= Received: from [192.168.1.48] (67.Red-79-156-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net [79.156.34.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: soren@dslnc.com) by homiemail-a95.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDE7B1E059 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_82AD945D-32CF-46C6-BC79-32A93A64CD63" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Use of 4K Cameras Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 19:08:14 +0200 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) --Apple-Mail=_82AD945D-32CF-46C6-BC79-32A93A64CD63 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 The oled panels to me really stands out, the black levels are incredible = - I take that over 4k (If I wasn't a projector man - no tv at home ;-) On 08 Aug 2014, at 15:59, rendernyc wrote: > i was in a best buy a couple months back and there was a samsung UHD = panel on the end cap of an aisle and the difference in the panel itself = was stunning compared to the other sets on display.=20 >=20 > it was 50, maybe 55", nothing enormous but everything about that panel = stood out over the other sets. >=20 > the angle of view, colors, detail were all amazing and you dont have = to be a pro to see that difference. >=20 > so while at that size resolution might not really matter = mathematically, the panel itself was a major improvement over the HD = versions >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:52 AM, ML meassi = wrote: > Yes, you're right if it's a pro that look at the video. > Most customers percive things in a different manner.=20 > Even a 300 fps slow motion Full HD video have more impact than 4k = video in my experience. >=20 > We shoot 4k half of the times but this, most of the times, is a choice = we make for technical aspects (reframing, CK, track, etc). > As here the end use is always on 2k or less resolution most of the = customers / agencies don't ask for 4k. >=20 > GL >=20 > Il 06/08/14 02:37, Steve Oakley ha scritto: >> and the problem with theory vs reality is reality. having seen 4K = many times ( shoot, edit, project all 4K ) there is a difference that = you can perceive even under less than ideal viewing conditions. until = you get to see good 4K I=92d suggest holding off a bit on judgement as = to if its worth it or not. 10bit color space is also a big deal which is = part of the up coming standard for 4K. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > danny princz >=20 > vimeo.com/rendernyc --Apple-Mail=_82AD945D-32CF-46C6-BC79-32A93A64CD63 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
The oled panels to me really stands out, the = black levels are incredible - I take that over 4k (If I wasn't a = projector man - no tv at home = ;-)




On = 08 Aug 2014, at 15:59, rendernyc <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

i was in a best buy a couple months back = and there was a samsung UHD panel on the end cap of an aisle and the = difference in the panel itself was stunning compared to the other sets = on display. 

it was 50, maybe 55", nothing enormous but everything about that = panel stood out over the other sets.

the angle = of view, colors, detail were all amazing and you dont have to be a pro = to see that difference.

so while at that size resolution might not really = matter mathematically, the panel itself was a major improvement over the = HD versions


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:52 AM, ML meassi <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Yes, you're right if it's a pro that look at the video.
Most customers percive things in a different manner.
Even a 300 fps slow motion Full HD video have more impact than 4k video in my experience.

We shoot 4k half of the times but this, most of the times, is a choice we make for technical aspects (reframing, CK, track, = etc).
As here the end use is always on 2k or less resolution most of the customers / agencies don't ask for 4k.

GL

Il 06/08/14 02:37, Steve Oakley ha scritto:
=20 and the problem with theory vs reality is reality. having seen 4K many times ( shoot, edit, project all 4K ) there is a difference that you can perceive even under less than ideal viewing conditions. until you get to see good 4K I=92d suggest holding off = a bit on judgement as to if its worth it or not. 10bit color space is also a big deal which is part of the up coming standard for = 4K.




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