From: "Benny Christensen" Received: from mail-yk0-f175.google.com ([209.85.160.175] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5547855 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:51:51 +0200 Received: by mail-yk0-f175.google.com with SMTP id q200so335074ykb.6 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:51:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:message-id:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to; bh=Ya2BcPLBRUHF7Vat251Wk31CXdJWW2uS/wqDK3nD80E=; b=cq8Tx+N/zO4o+3COsRtGgAz7aru5ZDKJX+PMmU6SXi/5PURdobFzFCZBDCMWh9bi2/ O5avVUhE3nxugpiNReeHlGENArRrmpyvtOn7Z1A2lr5OEoTQn3nL7irWeNctI3YPD1Er GsNXA2rokNOmrBmWbY1tHWqEPvx+yGDZDYZHbgYkkZduuIEkIt9k+0zCQ8lqYzuJun/M 1S76dtlA/kgn/V5aFf3BaAoNUiNi+3MG+g41XM7GUmyIParuwudyniAyIFwPx1b1o15C JgUz1K3UYIssp4K/X42MmCBSz+1ZSJd0dzmWxlp0nq9A+C3Xl3smCJa9g6A51gIauuFO Gtuw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlUodvJxEvXUAoDbs3ch/sa97RNVXpTxAyXyCwpqgRefOXO/8ZpXruUwL3oejOlNOc+ROp8 X-Received: by 10.236.73.102 with SMTP id u66mr7733527yhd.160.1407966711702; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from 66.49.40.101.nw.nuvox.net (66.49.40.101.nw.nuvox.net. [66.49.40.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c63sm6524187yhn.51.2014.08.13.14.51.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:51:51 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_16061C35-A5BB-4F6E-B805-171874C4C4B8" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [AE] What's the state of Ae on new MacPros? Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:51:32 -0500 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) --Apple-Mail=_16061C35-A5BB-4F6E-B805-171874C4C4B8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Most of the latency issues I've seen on my iMac have been the result of = not keeping my caches off the internal drive.=20 Instead I always keep them with the media/project folders on the largest = fastest drive I have. YMMV. Benny Christensen Producers Playhouse Oklahoma City 405-858-0700 "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." - Sir = Winston Churchill On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Stephen van Vuuren = wrote: > Note about iMacs =96 a few of my editor friends that moved to maxed = out iMac=92s instead of upgrading Mac Pro have run into consistent issue = with lag/latency with audio in Premiere and other apps. > =20 > Personally, for AE only, it might be an okay box but for critical = real-time, I don=92t think it=92s a great machine. > =20 > One of them has chosen to move to PC due the MacPro=92s own = price/performance/form factor issues. > =20 > stephen van vuuren > 336.202.4777 > =20 > http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ > http://www.sv2dcp.com/ > http://www.sv2studios.com/ > =20 > A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than like fiction. It = should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what=92s = behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later. > =96Stanley Kubrick > =20 > From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:56 PM > To: After Effects Mail List > Subject: Re: [AE] What's the state of Ae on new MacPros? > =20 > an updated iMac with a 6 core and higher ram limit would be great. i = dont see any difference in performance between the 680 and the 780 on = the imac, just less erros with the extra 2GB of VRAM. > =20 > =20 >=20 > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Steve Oakley = wrote: > my 2008 mac tower, K5000, SSD system drive, 3X3TB raid eats thru 1080 = editing all day long with good responsiveness. I=92m talking 8-10 layers = in PP with 1-2 video layers where one is often some h.264 format, 1 = ProRes, maybe one ProRes 4444 + alpha, static graphics, lumetri from = speed grade. where this system probably suffers is decoding the h.264 = formats where 2-3 layers will get boggish a bit.=20 > =20 > OTH I am finishing a shot in 4K GH4 edited in 1080 on my imac i7 and = its gone well. since its a 2.93gh / much faster ram bus machine it = decodes h.264 a lot more smoothly than the 2008 machine. > =20 > so a used 5.1 tower should be a consideration if you want the PCIe = slots, and a loaded 27=94 iMac with nV GPU could be a really nice = compact machine. I=92m somewhat waiting for an update iMac with 6core = i7. > =20 > S > =20 > =20 > On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Tony Romain = wrote: > =20 > This is exactly what I've been hearing as well. Unless the software = is written from the ground up to take advantage of the updated hardware = specs/architecture on the new mac pros, the speed boost is negligible.. = Especially for the price. > =20 > Would def just spend your money upgrading video cards, ram, = DEFINITELY replace your system drive with an SSD as well as get an = additional SSD for use as a AE disk cache=85 they are super cheap these = days > =20 > Can't stress enough how awesome the switch to an SSD system drive was=85= > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > -- > danny princz >=20 > vimeo.com/rendernyc --Apple-Mail=_16061C35-A5BB-4F6E-B805-171874C4C4B8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Most = of the latency issues I've seen on my iMac have been the result of not = keeping my caches off the internal = drive. 

Instead I always keep them with the = media/project folders on the largest fastest drive I have.

YMMV.

Benny = Christensen
Producers Playhouse
Oklahoma = City
405-858-0700

"We make = a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." - Sir = Winston Churchill




On Aug 13, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Stephen van Vuuren <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Note about iMacs =96 a few of my editor friends that = moved to maxed out iMac=92s instead of upgrading Mac Pro have run into = consistent issue with lag/latency with audio in Premiere and other = apps.
 
Personally, for AE only, it might be an okay box but = for critical real-time, I don=92t think it=92s a great = machine.
 
One of them has chosen to move to PC due the MacPro=92s= own price/performance/form factor issues.
 
stephen van = vuuren
336.202.4777
 
 
A film is =96 or should be =96 more like music than = like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The = theme, what=92s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes = later.
=96Stanley Kubrick
 
From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 = 2:56 PM
To: After Effects Mail = List
Subject: Re: [AE] What's the state = of Ae on new MacPros?
 
an = updated iMac with a 6 core and higher ram limit would be great. i dont = see any difference in performance between the 680 and the 780 on the = imac, just less erros with the extra 2GB of = VRAM.
 

 

On = Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
my 2008 mac tower, K5000, SSD system drive, 3X3TB = raid eats thru 1080 editing all day long with good responsiveness. I=92m = talking 8-10 layers in PP with 1-2 video layers where one is often some = h.264 format, 1 ProRes, maybe one ProRes 4444 + alpha, static graphics, = lumetri from speed grade. where this system probably suffers is decoding = the h.264 formats where 2-3 layers will get boggish a = bit. 
 
OTH I = am finishing a shot in 4K GH4 edited in 1080 on my imac i7 and its gone = well. since its a 2.93gh / much faster ram bus machine it decodes h.264 = a lot more smoothly than the 2008 = machine.
 
so a = used 5.1 tower should be a consideration if you want the PCIe slots, and = a loaded 27=94 iMac with nV GPU could be a really nice compact machine. = I=92m somewhat waiting for an update iMac with 6core = i7.
 
S
 
 
On Aug 13, = 2014, at 1:30 PM, Tony Romain <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:
 
This is = exactly what I've been hearing as well.  Unless the software is = written from the ground up to take advantage of the updated hardware = specs/architecture on the new mac pros, the speed boost is negligible.. = Especially for the price.
 
Would def just spend your money upgrading video cards, ram, =  DEFINITELY replace your system drive with an SSD as well as get an = additional SSD for use as a AE disk cache=85  they are super cheap = these days
 
Can't = stress enough how awesome the switch to an SSD system drive = was=85
 
 


 
--
danny = princz

vimeo.com/rendernyc

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