From: "Rich Young" Received: from nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.24] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5547973 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 03:19:36 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2014 01:19:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.117] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2014 01:16:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.149] by tm108.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2014 01:16:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.213] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2014 01:16:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2014 01:16:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 544273.32522.bm@omp1022.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 23235 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Aug 2014 01:16:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1407979001; bh=XnrF7ZRF2cpp5sp0K3v3gkDo7PFCqCtuZ6iheDXtkqs=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A9yP4qrNAmiXDgl/mnOKUIWKU5uwaXPzXVF5JwaGX+ahCdTmFE02IbW3uYGsOJFFZnNh4qzGL5QZuU6zOFvNZf3S2LZ737TeEZYFV4Hm5ExVhiD1/O6MsMFh2jtEUqC2tE6blNiJrZy4ZvaEJpBG+KD5BdM7d+i+ovobaiL11dM= X-YMail-OSG: reDY1xkVM1lnjJw6KUfXktN7inm5bFx9BJ9QFRugo8PdOTm fkx_IHmnaQ1UYbi3ucTT4Mtq9Q7dA6UMw8JKykq9q6i4JHFQQngVz7EF9wTv 3wPAIXG3EOlJdOH_j8Ff8mFcYSgRuEWrxd_lO6VSGrtJfANa7jpiKWAxXmaN jwbD9cxibCBzIxRA7UvvDM.oMM7sSt6olHoychUMoza.SJ0ZoDoENMU7ScPk 67E.3qBDjNZExo9qkr8s0JYIMHGp02JiNZbU1avP2K4_HejxQvHzF_IVfsIl aG5C764PTX7LKYuokXpg2a8emWA4uNVj3aRQDpzQX77.sb1Uso6gRty5qv3w lCAlQv3.k6_yQpT0UJqL9ojifbvp7g3WfH4veRaDJgR9bBncBzXy5bVJXBVS nbEhpuEYuQcgRKoV6i5qT2lX4Q455hYlwBuocvFVFYE7Q2.ILH3TykR9WYv0 tiKV8GSEldVlQ6RqX1qfVf9kuOO9QTP7hZdOeflyQc_m2aIba8axsHndT.nq hUkAh7rauqiBFnRIKQTWFmQkwYUwp9FiX8g_.Waw8q6cwmQhQ2mn5BxNiNhA XhqxF045QzcgZ_lx.LkTR1FqMC4JA06eUujiQHGG7cSGPPqz.zkQRN33mWSZ mFa20yNMas1dzLK7iN6flxfslADTDRyDLUR3gdHLegmJSGipiWSQhOeanudJ 4e5NFMVzVS2ozgp4IpypY3SafR47y4pbnKcqOtfCeLIhnB8AUVg26wuCIyex mCQ8ZoOXqwFBby0QU.JWDMlgK0vjyNuGHm29esm3GvEkYPenL Received: from [99.181.59.25] by web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:16:41 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,SSd2ZSBiZWVuIHVzaW5nIGFuIGlNYWMocykgZm9yIDE5MjB4MTA4MCBpbiBDUy1DQyBmb3Igb3ZlciAzIHllYXJzIGFuZCBuZXZlciBoYWQgYW4gaXNzdWUuQnV0IEkgZG9uJ3QgdXNlIG1vcmUgdGhhbiA1ICJleWUtb24iICBsYXllcnMgKGF0IG1vc3QgMiBhcmUgdmlkZW8pLCBhbmQgdXNlIGFsbCBhY2NlbGVyYXRlZCBlZmZlY3RzIGluIFByZW1pZXJlLgoKwqAKUmljaCAKCgoKCj5fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo.IEZyb206IFN0ZXBoZW4gdmFuIFZ1dXJlbiA8QUUtTGlzdEBtZWQBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.201.700 References: Message-ID: <1407979001.96956.YahooMailNeo@web160404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 18:16:41 -0700 Reply-To: Rich Young Subject: Re: [AE] What's the state of Ae on new MacPros? To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="630850330-1637643646-1407979001=:96956" --630850330-1637643646-1407979001=:96956 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been using an iMac(s) for 1920x1080 in CS-CC for over 3 years and neve= r had an issue.But I don't use more than 5 "eye-on" layers (at most 2 are = video), and use all accelerated effects in Premiere.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0ARich =0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Stephen van Vuuren = =0A>To: After Effects Mail List =0A>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 4:33 PM=0A>Subject: Re: [AE] W= hat's the state of Ae on new MacPros?=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>Note about iMacs =E2= =80=93 a few of my editor friends that moved to maxed out iMac=E2=80=99s in= stead of upgrading Mac Pro have run into consistent issue with lag/latency = with audio in Premiere and other apps.=0A>=C2=A0=0A>Personally, for AE only= , it might be an okay box but for critical real-time, I don=E2=80=99t think= it=E2=80=99s a great machine.=0A>=C2=A0=0A>One of them has chosen to move = to PC due the MacPro=E2=80=99s own price/performance/form factor issues.=0A= >=C2=A0=0A>stephen van vuuren=0A>336.202.4777=0A>=C2=A0=0A>http://www.insat= urnsrings.com/=0A>http://www.sv2dcp.com/=0A>http://www.sv2studios.com/=0A>= =C2=A0=0A>A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80=93 more like music than l= ike fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, w= hat=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.=0A>=E2= =80=93Stanley Kubrick=0A>=C2=A0=0A>From:After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-= List@media-motion.tv] =0A>Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:56 PM=0A>To: A= fter Effects Mail List=0A>Subject: Re: [AE] What's the state of Ae on new M= acPros?=0A>=C2=A0=0A>an updated iMac with a 6 core and higher ram limit wou= ld be great. i dont see any difference in performance between the 680 and t= he 780 on the imac, just less erros with the extra 2GB of VRAM.=0A>=C2=A0= =0A>=C2=A0=0A>On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Steve Oakley wrote:=0A>my 2008 mac tower, K5000, SSD system drive, 3X3TB raid= eats thru 1080 editing all day long with good responsiveness. I=E2=80=99m = talking 8-10 layers in PP with 1-2 video layers where one is often some h.2= 64 format, 1 ProRes, maybe one ProRes 4444 + alpha, static graphics, lumetr= i from speed grade. where this system probably suffers is decoding the h.26= 4 formats where 2-3 layers will get boggish a bit.=C2=A0=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>OTH= I am finishing a shot in 4K GH4 edited in 1080 on my imac i7 and its gone = well. since its a 2.93gh / much faster ram bus machine it decodes h.264 a l= ot more smoothly than the 2008 machine.=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>so a used 5.1 tower = should be a consideration if you want the PCIe slots, and a loaded 27=E2=80= =9D iMac with nV GPU could be a really nice compact machine. I=E2=80=99m so= mewhat waiting for an update iMac with 6core i7.=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>S=0A>>=C2= =A0=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Tony Romain wrote:=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>>>This is exactly what I've been hearing a= s well. =C2=A0Unless the software is written from the ground up to take adv= antage of the updated hardware specs/architecture on the new mac pros, the = speed boost is negligible.. Especially for the price.=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>>>Woul= d def just spend your money upgrading video cards, ram, =C2=A0DEFINITELY re= place your system drive with an SSD as well as get an additional SSD for us= e as a AE disk cache=E2=80=A6 =C2=A0they are super cheap these days=0A>>>= =C2=A0=0A>>>Can't stress enough how awesome the switch to an SSD system dri= ve was=E2=80=A6=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=C2=A0=0A>-- =0A>dann= y princz=0A>=0A>vimeo.com/rendernyc=0A>=0A> --630850330-1637643646-1407979001=:96956 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've been using an iMac(s) for 1920x1080 in CS-CC for = over 3 years and never had an issue. But= I don't use more than 5 "eye-on" layers (at most 2 are video), and use all acc= elerated effects in Premiere.
 
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A film is =E2=80=93 or should be =E2=80= =93 more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods = and feelings. The theme, what=E2=80=99s behind the emotion, the=0A meaning,= all that comes later.
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my 2008 mac tower, K5000, SSD system drive, 3X3TB raid eats thru = 1080 editing all day long with good responsiveness. I=E2=80=99m talking 8-1= 0 layers in PP with 1-2 video layers where one is often some h.264 format, = 1 ProRes, maybe one ProRes 4444=0A + alpha, static graphics, lumetri from s= peed grade. where this system probably suffers is decoding the h.264 format= s where 2-3 layers will get boggish a bit. 
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