From: "Jim Curtis" Received: from production003.einsteinsname02.net ([67.228.43.50] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5548010 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 04:36:20 +0200 Received: from 99-152-153-100.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net ([99.152.153.100]:55958 helo=[192.168.1.68]) by production003.einsteinsname02.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XHktl-0006iR-W0 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:36:18 -0500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_171A1A43-EFCF-4D60-BE32-4053B03638FF" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: [AE] What's the state of Ae on new MacPros? Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:36:17 -0500 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-EinsteinsEyes-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EinsteinsEyes-MailScanner-ID: 1XHktl-0006iR-W0 X-EinsteinsEyes-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-EinsteinsEyes-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-EinsteinsEyes-MailScanner-From: jpcurtis@me.com X-Spam-Status: No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - production003.einsteinsname02.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - media-motion.tv X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - me.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: production003.einsteinsname02.net: authenticated_id: jim@hartprods.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: --Apple-Mail=_171A1A43-EFCF-4D60-BE32-4053B03638FF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hey Steve, Didn't you used to have a Quadro 4000 in your MacPro3,1?. =20 That's what I have now, and I'm wondering if it'd be worth it to = upgrade. Other than the CUDA card, our systems are pretty similar, and = I I get a variety of source footage=85 a lot of MP4 variants, and lately = 2K ProRes4444 from an Alexa. My system can't play that unprocessed in = real-time at Full quality. That's curious, because I can play 4 streams = of 1080 ProRes 422 easily. CUDA seems to make a big difference in = playback of the PR4444. WIth it off, my CPU meters max out; with it on, = they go down around 50%. =20 Being able to play at least one stream scaled to 1080 with some = accelerated color effects at full res without dropping frames would be = nice. On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Steve Oakley = wrote: > my 2008 mac tower, K5000, SSD system drive, 3X3TB raid eats thru 1080 = editing all day long with good responsiveness. I=92m talking 8-10 layers = in PP with 1-2 video layers where one is often some h.264 format, 1 = ProRes, maybe one ProRes 4444 + alpha, static graphics, lumetri from = speed grade. where this system probably suffers is decoding the h.264 = formats where 2-3 layers will get boggish a bit.=20 >=20 > OTH I am finishing a shot in 4K GH4 edited in 1080 on my imac i7 and = its gone well. since its a 2.93gh / much faster ram bus machine it = decodes h.264 a lot more smoothly than the 2008 machine. >=20 > so a used 5.1 tower should be a consideration if you want the PCIe = slots, and a loaded 27=94 iMac with nV GPU could be a really nice = compact machine. I=92m somewhat waiting for an update iMac with 6core = i7. >=20 > S >=20 >=20 >> On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Tony Romain = wrote: >>=20 >> This is exactly what I've been hearing as well. Unless the software = is written from the ground up to take advantage of the updated hardware = specs/architecture on the new mac pros, the speed boost is negligible.. = Especially for the price. >>=20 >> Would def just spend your money upgrading video cards, ram, = DEFINITELY replace your system drive with an SSD as well as get an = additional SSD for use as a AE disk cache=85 they are super cheap these = days >>=20 >> Can't stress enough how awesome the switch to an SSD system drive = was=85 >>=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_171A1A43-EFCF-4D60-BE32-4053B03638FF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hey = Steve,

Didn't you used to have a Quadro 4000 in your MacPro3,1?. =  

That's what I have now, and I'm wondering if = it'd be worth it to upgrade.  Other than the CUDA card, our systems = are pretty similar, and I

I get a variety of source footage=85 a = lot of MP4 variants, and lately 2K ProRes4444 from an Alexa.  My = system can't play that unprocessed in real-time at Full quality. =  That's curious, because I can play 4 streams of 1080 ProRes 422 = easily.  CUDA seems to make a big difference in playback of the = PR4444.  WIth it off, my CPU meters max out; with it on, they go = down around 50%.  

Being able to play at = least one stream scaled to 1080 with some accelerated color effects at = full res without dropping frames would be = nice.



On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:50 = PM, Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

my = 2008 mac tower, K5000, SSD system drive, 3X3TB raid eats thru 1080 = editing all day long with good responsiveness. I=92m talking 8-10 layers = in PP with 1-2 video layers where one is often some h.264 format, 1 = ProRes, maybe one ProRes 4444 + alpha, static graphics, lumetri from = speed grade. where this system probably suffers is decoding the h.264 = formats where 2-3 layers will get boggish a = bit. 

OTH I am finishing a shot in 4K GH4 edited = in 1080 on my imac i7 and its gone well. since its a 2.93gh / much = faster ram bus machine it decodes h.264 a lot more smoothly than the = 2008 machine.

so a used 5.1 tower should be a = consideration if you want the PCIe slots, and a loaded 27=94 iMac with = nV GPU could be a really nice compact machine. I=92m somewhat waiting = for an update iMac with 6core = i7.

S


On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Tony Romain <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

This is exactly what I've been hearing as = well.  Unless the software is written from the ground up to take = advantage of the updated hardware specs/architecture on the new mac = pros, the speed boost is negligible.. Especially for the = price.

Would def just spend your money = upgrading video cards, ram,  DEFINITELY replace your system drive = with an SSD as well as get an additional SSD for use as a AE disk cache=85=  they are super cheap these days

Can't = stress enough how awesome the switch to an SSD system drive = was=85


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