From: "rendernyc" Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com ([209.85.214.174] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5548019 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 04:42:07 +0200 Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id vb8so480327obc.19 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:42:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VEP/yVZnFTZ6nPCoiHi0pkTlmpDZCNrLLljaihCbRBc=; b=um/J8NWb8FKX/y8+tvifFFJ3f1ZJSO1MkiMU07K7SpGHFfLQe3y5uHsqcsJmqV0S0Q QvwVs69wfOPEYwEQ+JrsPSkxuAK6NWeJXxEcAZ5z6VNdO2Ucudf7u6aea5eTMFJ7Lyen bZp9UVbcNAaGgh07EkFcB8p9/8A8iDgrmMuaW+wOGb/rUIRle7yLF7FI2QoKglVKJeo6 +0oAanlpDnPlC1E5MUMrcDXlDps7tgrxamtSW/0Va8VZd8C339r18csr8yLOvtpigtQQ AsHbaJxGLtbiQ4nucaK3ra9QNYMhDci6jKR3M0JV+68/mzDhD0NIwIoixgSbOWzv2n3b AM3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.70.65 with SMTP id k1mr8964754oeu.61.1407984126480; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.71.77 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:42:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:42:06 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] What's the state of Ae on new MacPros? To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113345ecb559c005008dd90d --001a113345ecb559c005008dd90d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The quadro 4000 is a very weak CUDA card... its misleading due to naming and marketing. i sold mine a while back and bought a GTX570 2.5GB card and see a performance increase of 2-3X i would check out a card like a 770 or 780 perhaps... something like that and the CUDA performance will receive a huge boost On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Jim Curtis wrote: > Hey Steve, > > Didn't you used to have a Quadro 4000 in your MacPro3,1?. > > That's what I have now, and I'm wondering if it'd be worth it to upgrade. > Other than the CUDA card, our systems are pretty similar, and I > > I get a variety of source footage=E2=80=A6 a lot of MP4 variants, and lat= ely 2K > ProRes4444 from an Alexa. My system can't play that unprocessed in > real-time at Full quality. That's curious, because I can play 4 streams = of > 1080 ProRes 422 easily. CUDA seems to make a big difference in playback = of > the PR4444. WIth it off, my CPU meters max out; with it on, they go down > around 50%. > > Being able to play at least one stream scaled to 1080 with some > accelerated color effects at full res without dropping frames would be ni= ce. > > > > > On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Steve Oakley wrote= : > > my 2008 mac tower, K5000, SSD system drive, 3X3TB raid eats thru 1080 > editing all day long with good responsiveness. I=E2=80=99m talking 8-10 l= ayers in > PP with 1-2 video layers where one is often some h.264 format, 1 ProRes, > maybe one ProRes 4444 + alpha, static graphics, lumetri from speed grade. > where this system probably suffers is decoding the h.264 formats where 2-= 3 > layers will get boggish a bit. > > OTH I am finishing a shot in 4K GH4 edited in 1080 on my imac i7 and its > gone well. since its a 2.93gh / much faster ram bus machine it decodes > h.264 a lot more smoothly than the 2008 machine. > > so a used 5.1 tower should be a consideration if you want the PCIe slots, > and a loaded 27=E2=80=9D iMac with nV GPU could be a really nice compact = machine. > I=E2=80=99m somewhat waiting for an update iMac with 6core i7. > > S > > > On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Tony Romain wrote: > > This is exactly what I've been hearing as well. Unless the software is > written from the ground up to take advantage of the updated hardware > specs/architecture on the new mac pros, the speed boost is negligible.. > Especially for the price. > > Would def just spend your money upgrading video cards, ram, DEFINITELY > replace your system drive with an SSD as well as get an additional SSD fo= r > use as a AE disk cache=E2=80=A6 they are super cheap these days > > Can't stress enough how awesome the switch to an SSD system drive was=E2= =80=A6 > > > > --=20 danny princz vimeo.com/rendernyc --001a113345ecb559c005008dd90d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The quadro 4000 is a very weak CUDA card... its misleading= due to naming and marketing.

i sold mine a while back a= nd bought a GTX570 2.5GB card and see a performance increase of 2-3X

i would check out a card like a 770 or 780 perhaps... s= omething like that and the CUDA performance will receive a huge boost
=


On Wed,= Aug 13, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv&g= t; wrote:
Hey Stev= e,

Didn't you used to have a Quadro 4000 in your MacPro3,1?. =C2= =A0

That's what I have now, and I'm wondering if it'= d be worth it to upgrade. =C2=A0Other than the CUDA card, our systems are p= retty similar, and I

I get a variety of source footage=E2=80=A6 a lo= t of MP4 variants, and lately 2K ProRes4444 from an Alexa. =C2=A0My system = can't play that unprocessed in real-time at Full quality. =C2=A0That= 9;s curious, because I can play 4 streams of 1080 ProRes 422 easily. =C2=A0= CUDA seems to make a big difference in playback of the PR4444. =C2=A0WIth i= t off, my CPU meters max out; with it on, they go down around 50%. =C2=A0

Being able to play at least one stream scaled to 1080 w= ith some accelerated color effects at full res without dropping frames woul= d be nice.




On Aug = 13, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Steve Oakley <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

my 2008 m= ac tower, K5000, SSD system drive, 3X3TB raid eats thru 1080 editing all da= y long with good responsiveness. I=E2=80=99m talking 8-10 layers in PP with= 1-2 video layers where one is often some h.264 format, 1 ProRes, maybe one= ProRes 4444 + alpha, static graphics, lumetri from speed grade. where this= system probably suffers is decoding the h.264 formats where 2-3 layers wil= l get boggish a bit.=C2=A0

OTH I am finishing a shot in 4K GH4 edited in 1080 on my ima= c i7 and its gone well. since its a 2.93gh / much faster ram bus machine it= decodes h.264 a lot more smoothly than the 2008 machine.

so a used 5.1 tower should be a consideration if you want the PC= Ie slots, and a loaded 27=E2=80=9D iMac with nV GPU could be a really nice = compact machine. I=E2=80=99m somewhat waiting for an update iMac with 6core= i7.

S


On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Tony Romain <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote= :

This is exactly what I've been hearing as well. = =C2=A0Unless the software is written from the ground up to take advantage o= f the updated hardware specs/architecture on the new mac pros, the speed bo= ost is negligible.. Especially for the price.

Would def just spend your money upgrading video cards, = ram, =C2=A0DEFINITELY replace your system drive with an SSD as well as get = an additional SSD for use as a AE disk cache=E2=80=A6 =C2=A0they are super = cheap these days

Can't stress enough how awesome the switch to an SS= D system drive was=E2=80=A6






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