From: "Robert W. Walker" Received: from p3plwbeout04-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([72.167.218.222] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP id 5548027 for ae-list@media-motion.tv; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 04:56:18 +0200 Received: from localhost ([72.167.218.243]) by p3plwbeout04-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with bizsmtp id eSwJ1o0015FgiYg01SwJD3; Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:56:18 -0700 X-SID: eSwJ1o0015FgiYg01 Received: (qmail 28252 invoked by uid 99); 14 Aug 2014 02:56:18 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 172.250.73.93 User-Agent: Workspace Webmail 5.7.2 Message-Id: <20140813195617.89259f98f291d771214680e8971719cb.a986796b4c.wbe@email04.secureserver.net> To: "After Effects Mail List" Subject: RE: [AE] What's the state of Ae on new =?UTF-8?Q?MacPros=3F?= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 19:56:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Had a Quadro 4000 in a 5,1. Thought it was pretty good. Traded up to a=0A= 570 in the 5,1, moved the Quadro to a 3,1 "secondary" machine. Huge=0Aimpr= ovement. Traded up to a 780 in the 5,1 and moved the 570 to the=0A3,1; "re= tired" the Quadro 4000 to=0Aon-the-shelf-emergency-backup-just-in-case stat= ues. Switched both=0Amachines to SSD boot drives. Gigantic improvement. W= ish I could sell=0Athe 4000 for half of what I paid for it.=0A=0ARobert W. = Walker=0ALos Angeles CA USA=0A=0A> -------- Original Message --------=0A> S= ubject: Re: [AE] What's the state of Ae on new MacPros?=0A> From: "renderny= c" =0A> Date: Wed, August 13, 2014 10:42 pm=0A> To= : "After Effects Mail List" =0A> =0A> =0A> The qua= dro 4000 is a very weak CUDA card... its misleading due to naming=0A> and m= arketing.=0A> =0A> i sold mine a while back and bought a GTX570 2.5GB card = and see a=0A> performance increase of 2-3X=0A> =0A> i would check out a car= d like a 770 or 780 perhaps... something like that=0A> and the CUDA perform= ance will receive a huge boost=0A> =0A> =0A> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:36 = PM, Jim Curtis =0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> > Hey Steve,= =0A> >=0A> > Didn't you used to have a Quadro 4000 in your MacPro3,1?.=0A> = >=0A> > That's what I have now, and I'm wondering if it'd be worth it to up= grade.=0A> > Other than the CUDA card, our systems are pretty similar, and= I=0A> >=0A> > I get a variety of source footage=E2=80=A6 a lot of MP4 vari= ants, and lately 2K=0A> > ProRes4444 from an Alexa. My system can't play t= hat unprocessed in=0A> > real-time at Full quality. That's curious, becaus= e I can play 4 streams of=0A> > 1080 ProRes 422 easily. CUDA seems to make= a big difference in playback of=0A> > the PR4444. WIth it off, my CPU met= ers max out; with it on, they go down=0A> > around 50%.=0A> >=0A> > Being a= ble to play at least one stream scaled to 1080 with some=0A> > accelerated = color effects at full res without dropping frames would be nice.=0A> >=0A> = >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Steve Oakley wrote:=0A> >=0A> > my 2008 mac tower, K5000, SSD system drive,= 3X3TB raid eats thru 1080=0A> > editing all day long with good responsiven= ess. I=E2=80=99m talking 8-10 layers in=0A> > PP with 1-2 video layers wher= e one is often some h.264 format, 1 ProRes,=0A> > maybe one ProRes 4444 + a= lpha, static graphics, lumetri from speed grade.=0A> > where this system pr= obably suffers is decoding the h.264 formats where 2-3=0A> > layers will ge= t boggish a bit.=0A> >=0A> > OTH I am finishing a shot in 4K GH4 edited in = 1080 on my imac i7 and its=0A> > gone well. since its a 2.93gh / much faste= r ram bus machine it decodes=0A> > h.264 a lot more smoothly than the 2008 = machine.=0A> >=0A> > so a used 5.1 tower should be a consideration if you w= ant the PCIe slots,=0A> > and a loaded 27=E2=80=9D iMac with nV GPU could b= e a really nice compact machine.=0A> > I=E2=80=99m somewhat waiting for an = update iMac with 6core i7.=0A> >=0A> > S=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > On Aug 13, 2014,= at 1:30 PM, Tony Romain wrote:=0A> >=0A> > This = is exactly what I've been hearing as well. Unless the software is=0A> > wr= itten from the ground up to take advantage of the updated hardware=0A> > sp= ecs/architecture on the new mac pros, the speed boost is negligible..=0A> >= Especially for the price.=0A> >=0A> > Would def just spend your money upgr= ading video cards, ram, DEFINITELY=0A> > replace your system drive with an= SSD as well as get an additional SSD for=0A> > use as a AE disk cache=E2= =80=A6 they are super cheap these days=0A> >=0A> > Can't stress enough how= awesome the switch to an SSD system drive was=E2=80=A6=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >= =0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> danny princz=0A> =0A> vimeo.com/rendernyc