From: "Stephen van Vuuren" Received: from [207.46.163.235] (HELO na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5555995 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 03:43:16 +0200 Received: from CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.71.15) by CO1PR06MB268.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.71.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 01:43:12 +0000 Received: from CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.7.145]) by CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.7.244]) with mapi id 15.00.0995.014; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 01:43:12 +0000 To: After Effects Mail List Subject: RE: [AE] Scale makes layers disappear behind other layers Thread-Topic: [AE] Scale makes layers disappear behind other layers Thread-Index: AQHPvzolSg6/fXi9GkCpPxWIRfiX9Jve+l8w Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 01:43:10 +0000 Message-ID: <1d0b6aa120de4dfb938ca6d1f7dfe65f@CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [174.98.16.74] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 03137AC81E x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(24454002)(199003)(377454003)(189002)(81542001)(19609705001)(15975445006)(90102001)(20776003)(83072002)(19625215002)(101416001)(99396002)(74502001)(77982001)(95666004)(80022001)(86362001)(110136001)(76176999)(92566001)(54356999)(19580395003)(31966008)(4396001)(76482001)(64706001)(66066001)(77096002)(79102001)(2656002)(87936001)(106356001)(46102001)(33646002)(74316001)(15202345003)(19580405001)(16236675004)(21056001)(19617315012)(19300405004)(107886001)(85852003)(99286002)(105586002)(107046002)(83322001)(50986999)(74662001)(76576001)(85306004)(106116001)(81342001)(108616004)(24736002);DIR:OUT;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:CO1PR06MB268;H:CO1PR06MB265.namprd06.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;MLV:sfv;PTR:InfoNoRecords;A:1;MX:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1d0b6aa120de4dfb938ca6d1f7dfe65fCO1PR06MB265namprd06pro_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: sv2studios.com --_000_1d0b6aa120de4dfb938ca6d1f7dfe65fCO1PR06MB265namprd06pro_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Can only think to check the anchor point z value is 0, and that you're on= ly scaling the x & y axis. If the z value for the anchor point is not 0, a= nd you're scaling the z axis, then everything will shift in z space and you= r layers won't be where you think they are. Great catch Chris! I forgot I was monkeying with the anchor points and that= is exactly what I did. Much obliged! stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, = the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick From: After Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv] Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:24 PM To: After Effects Mail List Subject: Re: [AE] Scale makes layers disappear behind other layers Can only think to check the anchor point z value is 0, and that you're only= scaling the x & y axis. If the z value for the anchor point is not 0, and= you're scaling the z axis, then everything will shift in z space and your = layers won't be where you think they are. -Chris On 24 Aug 2014, at 9:40 am, Stephen van Vuuren > wrote: Okay, I admit not a normal setup, but I have a 3 Precomps 20,000 x 8000 pre= comp with 4 tiled bitmap layers (my usual workflow due to AE's frame buffer= limitations) set to 3D for collapse transformations. In my main comp, with= camera parented to null. Precomps are arranged in Z-space for multiplane p= hotoanimation but when I scale them to match original photograph - at certa= in seemingly arbitrary scale percentages they vanish behind a layer that is= thousands of pixel behind the layer being scaled. I've setup similar comps many hundreds of times and not observed this befor= e - checked does it in CC and CC 2014. stephen van vuuren 336.202.4777 http://www.insaturnsrings.com/ http://www.sv2dcp.com/ http://www.sv2studios.com/ A film is - or should be - more like music than like fiction. It should be = a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, = the meaning, all that comes later. -Stanley Kubrick --_000_1d0b6aa120de4dfb938ca6d1f7dfe65fCO1PR06MB265namprd06pro_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Can only thin= k to check the anchor point z value is 0, and that you’re only scalin= g the x & y axis.  If the z value for the anchor point is not 0, and you’re scaling the z axis, then everything will shift in z space= and your layers won’t be where you think they are.

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Great catch Chris! I forg= ot I was monkeying with the anchor points and that is exactly what I did. M= uch obliged!

 <= /p>

stephen van vuuren

336.202.4777

 <= /p>

http://www.insaturnsrings.c= om/

http://www.sv2dcp.com/

http://www.sv2studios.com/

 <= /p>

A film is – or shou= ld be – more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression= of moods and feelings. The theme, what’s behind the emotion, the mea= ning, all that comes later.

–Stanley Kubrick

 <= /p>

From: After = Effects Mail List [mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv]
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:24 PM
To: After Effects Mail List
Subject: Re: [AE] Scale makes layers disappear behind other layers

 

Can only think to check the anchor point z value is = 0, and that you’re only scaling the x & y axis.  If the z va= lue for the anchor point is not 0, and you’re scaling the z axis, the= n everything will shift in z space and your layers won’t be where you think they are.

 

-Chris

 

On 24 Aug 2014, at 9:40 am, Stephen van Vuuren <<= a href=3D"mailto:AE-List@media-motion.tv">AE-List@media-motion.tv> w= rote:



Okay, I admit not a normal setup, but I= have a 3 Precomps 20,000 x 8000 precomp with 4 tiled bitmap layers (my usu= al workflow due to AE’s frame buffer limitations) set to 3D for collapse transformations. In my main comp, with camera parented to = null. Precomps are arranged in Z-space for multiplane photoanimation but wh= en I scale them to match original photograph – at certain seemingly a= rbitrary scale percentages they vanish behind a layer that is thousands of pixel behind the layer being scaled.

 

I’ve setup similar comps many hun= dreds of times and not observed this before – checked does it in CC a= nd CC 2014.

 

stephen van vuuren=

336.202.4777

 

 

A film is – or shou= ld be – more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression= of moods and feelings. The theme, what’s behind the emotion, the mea= ning, all that comes later.

–Stanley Kubrick

 

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