From: "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" Received: from mail-ig0-f181.google.com ([209.85.213.181] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.10) with ESMTP-TLS id 5561409 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 18:58:50 +0200 Received: by mail-ig0-f181.google.com with SMTP id h15so4020873igd.8 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:58:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=efu/pBOUhZVGo8zLo6cMq/5CxG0rmgV+gaWf2wmY4mo=; b=Q9Fvf5KdR0CqomqYmKYseUXfdruzMbO/Rc+xzwyFE+lpQItPoI3VNo11ZXkgdO98T6 Ghui/amyUQgpIv60qiGttr2ywyd3U7WwURLP/z79YpH9guIE5UoaKnwND9+RNm5m5RJ2 Z03qlJMWD8rvejzHJgHBHD9QBnCuS/DFnt2gP/Mgv++b94mquAX0UI0xPbcKhD/WKVP0 GqvAnZ1P/eO7GDBL3S8/Of089dq+nJZ5LZNfwYXmXXLxx7Sy9V9VNCSZz5XbwTOhD8Ol r+xac9Gm45jR6dItYogyrLC0d2dgF7kpHr1jJJtZ54SpyhHKPXAMC8qs60aCmft5F6RP BG3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.107.7 with SMTP id gy7mr11395868igb.15.1409417930558; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.56.50 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.56.50 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2014 09:58:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2014 12:58:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] GTX 780 Board Question To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ffbae41175da50501dbaf91 --e89a8ffbae41175da50501dbaf91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Well I think I determined one thing. It's definitely not in use. Certain AE projects won't load, particularly one using FFP. So I started a new project and tried adding an FFP layer and it locks up. Pretty sure the card is the issue. I reseated card. It did suddenly boot faster. Trying drivers again. Eric On Aug 30, 2014 11:29 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk" wrote: > Teddy, > > Thanks and not insulting at all. Sometimes those questions have to be > asked. I will check that it is seated well but believe it is and all > memory shows so doubt that is an issue. Plus I ran a memory test. > > The card is powered properly. In fact on first boot, one plug was not > seated all the way and it actually told me to ensure power was applied to > card. Then it booted fine. > > I don't even want think of a windows fresh install. Whew....that takes me > like a week to recover from. lol > > Eric > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Teddy Gage > wrote: > >> Last suggestion - create a new administrator user profile and install the >> drivers under that account, sometimes its the equivalent of clearing prefs >> in windows. It could give you an idea if maybe a full clean windows install >> would work. Or if the problem has to do with installed driver conflicts >> >> On Saturday, August 30, 2014, Teddy Gage wrote: >> >>> Eric, so you have downloaded the new drivers from nvidia website and >>> installed them and it still doesnt work? >>> >>> Honestly those kinds of errors can also be hardware issues like a cable >>> unplugged or a card that is not fully seated. I would pull it out and >>> reseat it. Or maybe a ram module got slightly unseated, etc. >>> >>> And you have all power cables fully plugged in? a card like that needs >>> two psu cables. Not trying to be insulting but a lot of times its something >>> obvious being overlooked. >>> >>> On Saturday, August 30, 2014, Jim Curtis >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Eric, have you called nVidia tech support? I buy my cards through >>>> third-party vendors, too, and that wasn't an issue for the folks I >>>> mentioned to get a replacement. Both were able to get enough info from me >>>> to determine that the issue was their cards, and not some configuration >>>> issue. >>>> >>>> I'm out of my depth on Windows, but I've asked the same question, and >>>> was told that if my monitor is hooked up to my graphics card, and I'm >>>> seeing something on the screen, it's working. OK, but the great unknown >>>> for me is how well the GPU is being used over the CPU. As you probably >>>> know, in Pr and Ae, the GPU can handle some tasks that the CPU would >>>> otherwise be doing (just not as fast). What's not clear to me is when the >>>> GPU is kicking in, which is why I looked into a GPU meter for my Mac. >>>> >>>> And BTW, I can't tell any difference between running the OSX and nVidia >>>> drivers, except that ECC (Error Correcting Codes) isn't available with the >>>> OSX driver. And I've tried ECC on and off, and also can't tell any >>>> difference in performance. I don't know if that info is helpful for >>>> Windows users. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 30, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jim, >>>> >>>> The thought repulses me. lol No, I have not considered that. I >>>> purchased from Tigerdirect too. I'd be waiting weeks probably to resolve >>>> if that were the case. >>>> >>>> But let me ask this. I finally decided to adjust my screen resolution >>>> in windows (you know, right click on desktop, adjust screen resolution) and >>>> realized I had much more to play with and I am in fact at 1920x1080 now. >>>> >>>> What am I losing by not having the drivers? Or maybe a better question >>>> is, is the card even in use right now? >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Jim Curtis >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Have you considered the possibility that you've received a defective >>>>> card? It happens from the best of companies. I've gotten defective cards >>>>> from both ATTO and AJA, companies with a excellent reputations for >>>>> reliability. Both companies overnight shipped me a new card without me >>>>> returning the bad one first. Nice touch; excellent support. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 30, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just an update for those interested. >>>>> >>>>> Still no solution but I did update my bios successfully today, hoping >>>>> that last ditch effort would do the trick. >>>>> >>>>> Ran Norton utilities as well. Everything online seems to point to the >>>>> error being memory related. I ran the memory check with no problems though. >>>>> >>>>> So still at a loss. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* >>>> *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* >>>> *The Night Visitor | VFX* >>>> *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* >>>> >>>> *www.kirkproductions.com >>>> kirkproductions@gmail.com* >>>> *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _____________________________ >>> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >>> teddygage dot com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com >> >> > > > -- > *Eric D. Kirk | **Kirk Productions* > *Hidden in the Woods | VFX* > *The Night Visitor | VFX* > *443.206.1347 <443.206.1347>* > > *www.kirkproductions.com > kirkproductions@gmail.com > * > *IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3351363/ > * > > --e89a8ffbae41175da50501dbaf91 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well I think I determined one thing.=C2=A0 It's definite= ly not in use.=C2=A0 Certain AE projects won't load, particularly one u= sing FFP.=C2=A0 So I started a new project and tried adding an FFP layer an= d it locks up.

Pretty sure the card is the issue.=C2=A0 I reseated card.=C2= =A0 It did suddenly boot faster.

Trying drivers again.

Eric

On Aug 30, 2014 11:29 AM, "Mr. Eric D. Kirk= " <kirkproductions@gma= il.com> wrote:
Teddy,

Thanks and not insulting at all.= =C2=A0Sometimes those questions have to be asked. =C2=A0I will check that = it is seated well =C2=A0but believe it is and all memory shows so doubt tha= t is an issue. =C2=A0Plus I ran a memory test.

The card is powered properly. =C2=A0In fact on first bo= ot, one plug was not seated all the way and it actually told me to ensure p= ower was applied to card. =C2=A0Then it booted fine.

I don't even want think of a windows fresh install. =C2=A0Whew....th= at takes me like a week to recover from. lol

Eric


On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Last suggestion - create a new administrator= user profile and install the drivers under that account, sometimes its the= equivalent of clearing prefs in windows. It could give you an idea if mayb= e a full=C2=A0clean windows install would work. Or if the problem has to do= with installed driver conflicts

On Saturday, August 30, 2014, Teddy Gage <teddygage@gmail.com> wrote:
Eric, so you have downloaded the new drivers from nvidia website and instal= led them and it still doesnt work?

Honestly those kinds = of errors can also be hardware issues like a cable unplugged or a card that= is not fully seated. I would pull it out and reseat it. Or maybe a ram mod= ule got slightly unseated, etc.=C2=A0

And you have all power cables fully plugged in?=C2=A0a = card like that needs two psu cables. Not=C2=A0trying to=C2=A0be insulting b= ut a lot of times its something obvious being overlooked.=C2=A0

On S= aturday, August 30, 2014, Jim Curtis <AE-List@media-motion.tv>= wrote:
Eric, ha= ve you called nVidia tech support? =C2=A0I buy my cards through third-party= vendors, too, and that wasn't an issue for the folks I mentioned to ge= t a replacement. =C2=A0Both were able to get enough info from me to determi= ne that the issue was their cards, and not some configuration issue.

I'm out of my depth on Windows, but I've asked the s= ame question, and was told that if my monitor is hooked up to my graphics c= ard, and I'm seeing something on the screen, it's working. =C2=A0OK= , but the great unknown for me is how well the GPU is being used over the C= PU. =C2=A0As you probably know, in Pr and Ae, the GPU can handle some tasks= that the CPU would otherwise be doing (just not as fast). =C2=A0What's= not clear to me is when the GPU is kicking in, which is why I looked into = a GPU meter for my Mac.

And BTW, I can't tell any difference between runnin= g the OSX and nVidia drivers, except that ECC (Error Correcting Codes) isn&= #39;t available with the OSX driver. =C2=A0And I've tried ECC on and of= f, and also can't tell any difference in performance. =C2=A0I don't= know if that info is helpful for Windows users.




On Aug 30, = 2014, at 9:33 AM, Mr. Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> w= rote:

Jim,

The = thought repulses me. lol =C2=A0No, I have not considered that. =C2=A0I purc= hased from Tigerdirect too. =C2=A0I'd be waiting weeks probably to reso= lve if that were the case.

But let me ask this. =C2=A0I finally decided to adjust my screen resol= ution in windows (you know, right click on desktop, adjust screen resolutio= n) and realized I had much more to play with and I am in fact at 1920x1080 = now.

What am I losing by not having the drivers? =C2=A0Or ma= ybe a better question is, is the card even in use right now?

= Eric


On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Jim Curtis <AE= -List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Have you= considered the possibility that you've received a defective card? =C2= =A0It happens from the best of companies. =C2=A0I've gotten defective c= ards from both ATTO and AJA, companies with a excellent reputations for rel= iability. =C2=A0Both companies overnight shipped me a new card without me r= eturning the bad one first. =C2=A0Nice touch; excellent support.



On Aug 30, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Mr= . Eric D. Kirk <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Just an update for those inter= ested.

Still no solution but I did update my bios success= fully today, hoping that last ditch effort would do the trick.

Ran Norton utilities as well.=C2=A0 Everything online seems to point to the= error being memory related.=C2=A0 I ran the memory check with no problems = though.

So still at a loss.

Eric





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The Night Visitor | VFX
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kirkproductions@gmail.com
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VFX & Mo= tion Graphic Artist
teddygage dot com



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teddygage dot com




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