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Subject: H264 Encoding and grain issues and Basic Encoding Survey
To: After Effects Mail List <AE-List@media-motion.tv>
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hey guys

I have been having problems achieving a decent crispy video from my AE
composition
it is a graphic pencil drawing come to life  with a lot of sharp details
and grain too.

I have tried rendering from AE via AME with the presets,
or even manually adjusting with VBR ,2PASS 10,12
and I cant get the grain and the fine details
I see in the high quality large file version.

I have tried rendering a high quality version (photo jpeg 100% from AE) and
that I compressed
in sorenson squeeze with multipass and still the grain is not as sharp as
it should be.

so I would like to sort this mess and while I am at -  reinforce my render
decisions on Lossless video as well.

would like to have a survey among you guys.

*my questions are:*
*1. what is your export option for lossless high quality video for further
editing purposes?*
*streaming quality is not important. *
my answer is:
Quicktime animation for 8bit
Png sequence for 16bit
Render through AE

*2. **what is your export option** for high quality viewing purposes HD
video? *
*say for showing in a presentation or exhibition. *
*file size doesnt have to be small and **streaming quality is important.*
my answer is:
H264 with very high bitrate
Render through AME

*3. **what is your export option** for sending for client video that
maintains*
*high quality (grain especially) or for uploading for youtube/Vimeo*
*streaming quality **and low file size are** important*
my answer is:
H264: Render through AME
HD720 2Pass VBR 6,8
HD1080 2Pass VBR 10,12
or Render through Sorenson squeeze multipass (which take forever)

Thanks

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<div dir=3D"ltr">hey guys<div><div><br></div><div>I have been having proble=
ms achieving a decent crispy video from my AE composition</div><div>it is a=
 graphic pencil drawing come to life =C2=A0with a lot of sharp details and =
grain too.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I have tried rendering from AE via AME with the presets=
,</div><div>or even manually adjusting with VBR ,2PASS 10,12=C2=A0</div><di=
v>and I cant get the grain and the fine details</div><div>I see in the high=
 quality large file version.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I have tried rendering a high quality version (photo jp=
eg 100% from AE) and that I compressed</div><div>in sorenson squeeze with m=
ultipass and still the grain is not as sharp as it should be.</div><div>
<br></div><div>so I would like to sort this mess and while I am at - =C2=A0=
reinforce my render decisions on Lossless video as well.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>would like to have a survey among you guys.</div><div><br></div><div=
>
<u>my questions are:</u></div><div><div><b>1. what is your export option fo=
r lossless high quality video for further editing purposes?</b></div></div>=
<div><b>streaming quality is not important.=C2=A0</b></div><div><font color=
=3D"#0000ff">my answer is:</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">Quicktime animation for 8bit</font></div><div>=
<font color=3D"#0000ff">Png sequence for 16bit</font></div><div><font color=
=3D"#0000ff">Render through AE</font></div><div><br></div><div><b>2.=C2=A0<=
/b><b>what is your export option</b><b>=C2=A0for high quality viewing purpo=
ses HD video?=C2=A0</b></div>
<div><b>say for showing in a presentation or exhibition.=C2=A0</b></div><di=
v><b>file size doesnt have to be small and=C2=A0</b><b>streaming quality is=
 important.</b></div><div><div><font color=3D"#0000ff">my answer is:</font>=
</div><div>
<font color=3D"#0000ff">H264 with very high bitrate=C2=A0</font></div></div=
><div><div><font color=3D"#0000ff">Render through AME</font></div></div><di=
v><font color=3D"#0000ff"><br></font></div><div><b>3.=C2=A0</b><b>what is y=
our export option</b><b>=C2=A0for sending for client video that maintains</=
b></div>
<div><b>high quality (grain=C2=A0especially) or for uploading for youtube/V=
imeo</b></div><div><div><b>streaming quality=C2=A0</b><b>and low file size =
are</b><b>=C2=A0important</b></div></div><div><div><font color=3D"#0000ff">=
my answer is:</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff">H264:=C2=A0</font><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0=
,255)">Render through AME</span></div><div><font color=3D"#0000ff">HD720 2P=
ass VBR 6,8=C2=A0</font></div><div><font color=3D"#0000ff">HD1080 2Pass VBR=
 10,12</font></div>
</div><div><font color=3D"#0000ff">or Render through Sorenson squeeze multi=
pass (which take forever)</font></div><div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><br></fo=
nt></div><div><font color=3D"#000000">Thanks</font></div><div><div><br></di=
v>
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>

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