From: "Chris Zwar" Received: from atl4mhob14.myregisteredsite.com ([209.17.115.52] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTP id 5799366 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Wed, 29 Jul 2015 01:59:35 +0200 Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.206]) by atl4mhob14.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t6T04rhY005300 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:04:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 3870 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jul 2015 00:04:53 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 203.219.111.6 X-Authenticated-UID: chris@chriszwar.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.167?) (chris@chriszwar.com@203.219.111.6) by 0 with ESMTPA; 29 Jul 2015 00:04:53 -0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_419FB165-19C0-4D72-81F6-813C036E446E" Message-Id: <809E4EE7-A82D-4FA9-AEEA-E1BF7ABE6644@chriszwar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2102\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Complicated rig removal Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:04:51 +1000 References: To: After Effects Mail List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) --Apple-Mail=_419FB165-19C0-4D72-81F6-813C036E446E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I was chatting about this with a co-worker, I recently had a difficult = roto job that totally stumped me and I wasn=E2=80=99t happy with my end = result. He routinely outsources roto to freelancers and for anything = serious it=E2=80=99s really best to use dedicated roto specialists. In short, for complex roto you need to look beyond AE. Most of the time = the freelancers he uses are using Mocca, but he said that for really = complex and difficult shots the point-cloud and projection / geometry = tools in Nuke are the most powerful option. Can=E2=80=99t tell you any = more than that as it=E2=80=99s not my area, but that=E2=80=99s what he = said... > On 28 Jul 2015, at 3:08 pm, David Torno = wrote: >=20 > Would Mocha Pro's remove tool be of any help? I've seen it do some = pretty incredible cleanup. May not get 100% of it, but if it takes any = painting burden off of you, it may be worth a try. >=20 > David Torno > Technical Director > http://www.ghosttownmedia.com > O: 213.739.2290 > C: 818.391.6060 > -------------------- > http://provideocoalition.com/dtorno = > http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com >=20 > "The most useless day is that in which we do not laugh" > -Charles Field >=20 > On Jul 27, 2015, at 9:01 PM, "Teddy Gage" > wrote: >=20 >> Trying to figure out how to remove a rig planted on the back of a = racecar running around a track, that holds 7 gopro cameras. There is no = clean plate, and obviously the road, shadows and lighting on and around = the rig change constantly. it's shot at 80 fps on 7 cameras so manual = roto is virtually out of the question. And budget. >>=20 >> Ive tried a track matte over the rig (which is fixed) with blurred = clone strokes but the background changes too much.=20 >>=20 >> Client does not want to hide the rig with a blur matte or cover up. = Running out of options. Is there something I'm forgetting? >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> _____________________________ >> VFX & Motion Graphic Artist >> teddygage dot com >>=20 --Apple-Mail=_419FB165-19C0-4D72-81F6-813C036E446E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I was chatting about this with a co-worker, I recently had a = difficult roto job that totally stumped me and I wasn=E2=80=99t happy = with my end result.  He routinely outsources roto to freelancers = and for anything serious it=E2=80=99s really best to use dedicated roto = specialists.

In = short, for complex roto you need to look beyond AE.  Most of the = time the freelancers he uses are using Mocca, but he said that for = really complex and difficult shots the point-cloud and projection / = geometry tools in Nuke are the most powerful option.  Can=E2=80=99t = tell you any more than that as it=E2=80=99s not my area, but that=E2=80=99= s what he said...

On 28 Jul 2015, at 3:08 pm, = David Torno <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Would Mocha = Pro's remove tool be of any help? I've seen it do some pretty incredible = cleanup. May not get 100% of it, but if it takes any painting burden off = of you, it may be worth a try.

David = Torno
Technical Director
http://www.ghosttownmedia.com
O: = 213.739.2290
C: 818.391.6060
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http://provideocoalition.com/dtorno
http://aeioweyou.blogspot.com

"The most useless = day is that in which we do not laugh"
-Charles = Field

On Jul 27, 2015, = at 9:01 PM, "Teddy Gage" <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Trying to figure out how to remove a rig planted on the back = of a racecar running around a track, that holds 7 gopro cameras. There = is no clean plate, and obviously the road, shadows and lighting on and = around the rig change constantly. it's shot at 80 fps on 7 = cameras so manual roto is virtually out of the question. And = budget.

Ive tried a track matte over the rig (which is = fixed) with blurred clone strokes but the background = changes too much. 

Client does not want to hide the rig = with a blur matte or cover up. Running out of options. Is there = something I'm forgetting?


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