From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathias_M=F6hl?=" Received: from mo4-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de ([81.169.146.218] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 5799778 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:01:16 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1438239998; l=11020; s=domk; d=mamoworld.com; h=In-Reply-To:To:References:Date:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type: From; bh=hFL//3e5BJ/1tnjoGGAomw36mO3Sndb1NnIml0Z9H2c=; b=Lk/cJF57cD2157DOhCsg29V+4V+1dEGSWGzmFMSAYeUvGSgesShCsYC8NRPkmhpuCMf IJpMaEMyJiP5DhubBiFGaysjA5VnrjauzdurNqXqQ1RVpBt/0YWCwuQ9gnca+Hks6wf87 A+vhqNrkebv2VpgJhThXZeiYS1goyuJn0Sw= X-RZG-AUTH: :JWICemClevKDgu8HjcNJMjRl593UXLPRxATGwvl0czvlKPnWLqh5o2igeDYKMXg= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from [192.168.14.47] (p5B3ED8F3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [91.62.216.243]) by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 37.8 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id R060cer6U76bp17 (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate) for ; Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:06:37 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_21D4AECE-B822-4E27-885F-9FE79D7E3824" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [AE] Complicated rig removal Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:06:36 +0200 References: To: After List In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) --Apple-Mail=_21D4AECE-B822-4E27-885F-9FE79D7E3824 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Maybe it helps to create a stabilizd precomp for each surface (i.e for = each individual, more or less flat, part of the car) that is overlapping = with the removed object. Then you can do your painting / cloning work = inside the the stabilized precomp. This means when you use the = clonestamp, for example, you are sampling perspectively correct, i.e. if = you copy parts from the far away end of the surface to an area more near = to the camera, they change size correctly. This tutorial gives you a quick idea of the workflow: = http://mamoworld.com/tutorials/mochaimport-ae-mini-tutorial-5-stabilized-p= recomp At the very end I do a quick clone stamp to remove the topmost window = from the wall. If you would do the same in the main perspective, the bricks you = clonestamp would not fit that nicely in perspective: The bricks on the = right side of the building are smaller than the bricks on the left side, = if you paint in the original perspective. In the stabilized view, they = all have the same size. Also if your surfaces do not more (fixed rig + fixed camera) it might be = worth to create the precomps. However, in this case you don=92t need to = track anything. You just create a corner pin manually and precompose to = create the precomp yourself. You could also =93fake=94 a quick track by = creating a random mask with two identical keyframes, and then let = MaskTracker+ create a precomp for you (Stabilized precomps are available = in both MochaImport+ and MaskTracker+) Cheers, Mathias On 28 Jul 2015, at 06:01, Teddy Gage wrote: > Trying to figure out how to remove a rig planted on the back of a = racecar running around a track, that holds 7 gopro cameras. There is no = clean plate, and obviously the road, shadows and lighting on and around = the rig change constantly. it's shot at 80 fps on 7 cameras so manual = roto is virtually out of the question. And budget. >=20 > Ive tried a track matte over the rig (which is fixed) with blurred = clone strokes but the background changes too much.=20 >=20 > Client does not want to hide the rig with a blur matte or cover up. = Running out of options. Is there something I'm forgetting? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > _____________________________ > VFX & Motion Graphic Artist > teddygage dot com >=20 mamoworld.com simplify your cgi Dr. Mathias M=F6hl Marlow 52 , 18551 Sagard, Germany Phone +49 (0)38302 - 88 75 61 info@mamoworld.com --Apple-Mail=_21D4AECE-B822-4E27-885F-9FE79D7E3824 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Maybe = it helps to create a stabilizd precomp for each surface (i.e for each = individual, more or less flat, part of the car) that is overlapping with = the removed object. Then you can do your painting / cloning work inside = the the stabilized precomp. This means when you use the clonestamp, for = example, you are sampling perspectively correct, i.e. if you copy parts = from the far away end of the surface to an area more near to the camera, = they change size correctly.

This tutorial gives you a = quick idea of the workflow:
At the very end I do a quick clone = stamp to remove the topmost window from the wall.
If you would = do the same in the main perspective, the bricks you clonestamp would not = fit that nicely in perspective: The bricks on the right side of the = building are smaller than the bricks on the left side, if you paint in = the original perspective. In the stabilized view, they all have the same = size.

Also if your surfaces do not more (fixed = rig + fixed camera) it might be worth to create the precomps. However, = in this case you don=92t need to track anything. You just create a = corner pin manually and precompose to create the precomp yourself. You = could also =93fake=94 a quick track by creating a random mask with two = identical keyframes, and then let MaskTracker+ create a precomp for you = (Stabilized precomps are available in both MochaImport+ and = MaskTracker+)

Cheers,
Mathias

On 28 Jul 2015, at 06:01, Teddy Gage <AE-List@media-motion.tv> = wrote:

Trying to figure out how to remove a rig planted on the = back of a racecar running around a track, that holds 7 gopro cameras. = There is no clean plate, and obviously the road, shadows and lighting on = and around the rig change constantly. it's shot at 80 fps on 7 = cameras so manual roto is virtually out of the question. And = budget.

Ive tried a track matte over the rig = (which is fixed) with blurred clone strokes but the background = changes too much. 

Client does not = want to hide the rig with a blur matte or cover up. Running out of = options. Is there something I'm forgetting?


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