From: "Roei Tzoref" Received: from mail-it0-f46.google.com ([209.85.214.46] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6319660 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 00:27:27 +0200 Received: by mail-it0-f46.google.com with SMTP id c195so7533655itb.1 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:28:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xuRjB85NhQPFtRXe87t/6BYUnK4DckN7aL7Os7/C+qE=; b=iDKCY7ZYCG+5wW1zudorsn4ZisEDCgWGWh+UngifbvKRTkZYeZoF6KPP5onjCqwZWd 3MMZOuz9B9dIsyL06JXSvORmjhEypjZyScaj47u0e+t5HqKYWEr1ALyBYLAPuvrEC/wc IpfGyKPyBy2Qycj0ScdItFSzG9Yc9UgG89LUuAO7RgubG+CXbKlMPyErUNcOGth5uCCi rN9NwrPuBVMr3kkxm0irK3UDEUFSrKDhA7s2wdYFKManAKc6Jt6oC9PMt4Rb3Pqa6S1D oQyASygQxsW46BsWv+53rIbsf3D94rCumtgszG5DEv8gzJ6uJRKw5F/K8HyYBzNrmhsg 2fVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=xuRjB85NhQPFtRXe87t/6BYUnK4DckN7aL7Os7/C+qE=; b=fSha5LscHp7c4uePaM4F5cr9f9+rX3fZhynDRMZ9fwVYrTDpNRx6waAtRVw22wo/Oe wUQTGxJiUu8GiOS6rE+ml4pvtlUyPJ6LzNkhtRnFBgoW67DXXCW3DuqXCYUIicPB7la4 XWJcegzvh1dEZd4JXKQLRDbSVSInR2JABtpv0/bYTuGKtNo7Qb1Ouh+gYSzPTtfDUcaA kmO+FZS7xDefqZnCfAfFtL3opvxobKcrAXmYllrAacROLlraa8JQsuBx+lOmwBe/qDKQ SF0FKXf2ZFnlnZOnufyB+uxbg48DVTFvhsrTRRfWoT5yBN7AZzmyivNlUdYTaF2s3noT 4R8Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgzIqfDzuFZmED7qHUIkr2p7PosZQB7/C2yl3ls4Y6FuktDHFyW Xs1AfGHSaXLZvRbMX4yk+j4mVF7/ZTkbcoaHt50= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCit1PYGUOHtDmUkjq7hZNK5bSKE7W5CfIyi8kMq7I8dI4wYjEK94U6YRnNwHpXk7Y0EpIIjf48/KGOjz6S6yY= X-Received: by 10.36.88.203 with SMTP id f194mr15046879itb.13.1505687322386; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:28:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.48.83 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:28:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 01:28:01 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Wacom vs Mouse To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a1145eaa8fe659b05596a258f" --001a1145eaa8fe659b05596a258f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for the honest feedback, Rick. this does give me some perspective= . On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Rick Gerard wrote: > I used a WACOM nearly full time for a couple of years but have gone away > from it for editing and AE because, for me, keyboard shortcuts and a mous= e > are faster and less frustrating than the tablet. Even when I used it ever= y > day I make far too many mis cues and had to use the undo a lot. I=E2=80= =99m sorry > but I don=E2=80=99t have any suggestions for modifying the shortcuts. I c= an only > tell you that it took me months to figure out what worked the best for me > but it drove a couple of other folks that used my setup absolutely crazy. > > For painting and drawing a WACOM is another story. The tablet, and now my > iPad Pro + Pencil + Astro Pad is much easier to use in Photoshop and > Illustrator. I hardly touch the WACOM any more but I have the iPad Pro an= d > Pencil open all the time. Astropad gives me a live view of my computer > screen and I am nearly if not exactly as productive as I ever was with th= e > WACOM and Photoshop. On a side note I=E2=80=99m making sketches and takin= g notes > all the time with my WACOM Bamboo. It=E2=80=99s kind of a digital paper t= hingie > that I bought just to play with but now it=E2=80=99s in my camera bag whe= rever I go > and shows up for all client meetings. > > If I had a Cintiq (does anyone really know how to pronounce a word with a > q ant the end?) I would probably use it but I am not sure it would be as > handy or as fast as a multi function mouse for an NLE or AE. One hand on > the keyboard and one on the mouse gives me access to the tools I need as > fast as I can think about it. > > Would I like AE and Premiere to work with touch screens and do I wish the= y > were better? You bet, but that is a different discussion. > > I don=E2=80=99t know if this helps you much. When I bought my WACOM it wa= s a > serious investment at nearly 10 X the cost of a mouse and I was determine= d > to use it for everything. In the long run it ended up in the pile of > un-used accessories that clutter my technology locker int he garage. > > Rick Gerard > VFX Supervisor/DP/Director > Northern CA > > . > > On Sep 17, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Walter Soyka > wrote: > > I use a Wacom tablet all the time, on every system I use. I travel with a > Wacom when I'm working out of my office. > > ... > > Good luck, > > *walter soyka* =E2=96=BC keen live > walter@keenlive.com > > On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Roei Tzoref > wrote: > >> Hi, just bought the intuos pro medium. Trying to get into the habit of >> working soley with a Wacom Tablet. I don't paint, but I composite, anima= te, >> roto and track. Rarely used it before, but have been freelancing in a pl= ace >> that doesn't even have a mouse, so I want to make a smooth transition. >> >> I find it a struggle using the pen buttons. I set them to right click >> (the button near the tip) and scroll/pan (the other one). It's makes me >> move my hand slightly (and the cursor as a result) when I want to use th= em. >> >> Scrolling with the mouse wheel is a feature I use in Ae all the time. I >> am missing finer control there. Right click is also used a lot. Do any o= f >> you have a recommendation for a pen setup?maybe pen holding posture that >> could help make this easier? Or is it just something to bare through for= a >> while? What do you use? What is your tablet position setup? >> >> >> > > --001a1145eaa8fe659b05596a258f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you for the honest feedback, Rick. this does give me= some perspective.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Rick Gerard <AE-List@media-motion= .tv> wrote:
I used a WACOM nearly full time for a couple of years = but have gone away from it for editing and AE because, for me, keyboard sho= rtcuts and a mouse are faster and less frustrating than the tablet. Even wh= en I used it every day I make far too many mis cues and had to use the undo= a lot. I=E2=80=99m sorry but I don=E2=80=99t have any suggestions for modi= fying the shortcuts. I can only tell you that it took me months to figure o= ut what worked the best for me but it drove a couple of other folks that us= ed my setup absolutely crazy.

For painting and drawing a= WACOM is another story. The tablet, and now my iPad Pro =C2=A0+ =C2=A0Penc= il + Astro Pad is much easier to use in Photoshop and Illustrator. I hardly= touch the WACOM any more but I have the iPad Pro and Pencil open all the t= ime. Astropad gives me a live view of my computer screen and I am nearly if= not exactly as productive as I ever was with the WACOM and Photoshop. On a= side note I=E2=80=99m making sketches and taking notes all the time with m= y WACOM Bamboo. It=E2=80=99s kind of a digital paper thingie that I bought = just to play with but now it=E2=80=99s in my camera bag wherever I go and s= hows up for all client meetings.=C2=A0

If I had a = Cintiq (does anyone really know how to pronounce a word with a q ant the en= d?) I would probably use it but I am not sure it would be as handy or as fa= st as a multi function mouse for an NLE or AE. One hand on the keyboard and= one on the mouse gives me access to the tools I need as fast as I can thin= k about it.

Would I like AE and Premiere to work w= ith touch screens and do I wish they were better? You bet, but that is a di= fferent discussion.

I don=E2=80=99t know if this h= elps you much. When I bought my WACOM it was a serious investment at nearly= 10 X the cost of a mouse and I was determined to use it for everything. In= the long run it ended up in the pile of un-used accessories that clutter m= y technology locker int he garage.=C2=A0

Rick Gera= rd
VFX Supervisor/DP/Director
Northern CA
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On Sep 17= , 2017, at 11:55 AM, Walter Soyka <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

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I use a Wacom tablet all the time, on every sys= tem I use. I travel with a Wacom when I'm working out of my office.

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On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 6:49 AM, Roei Tzoref= <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hi, just bought the intu= os pro medium. Trying to get into the habit of working soley with a Wacom T= ablet. I don't paint, but I composite, animate, roto and track. Rarely = used it before, but have been freelancing in a place that doesn't even = have a mouse, so I want to make a smooth transition.

I find it a struggle using the pen buttons. I = set them to right click (the button near the tip) and scroll/pan (the other= one). It's makes me move my hand slightly (and the cursor as a result)= when I want to use them.=C2=A0

Scrolling with the mouse wheel is a feature I use in Ae all the t= ime. I am missing finer control there. Right click is also used a lot. Do a= ny of you have a recommendation for a pen setup?maybe pen holding posture t= hat could help make this easier? Or is it just something to bare through fo= r a while? What do you use? What is your tablet position setup?=C2=A0
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