From: "Robert Kjettrup" Received: from mail-io0-f173.google.com ([209.85.223.173] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6320246 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:27:17 +0200 Received: by mail-io0-f173.google.com with SMTP id l15so3490232iol.8 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:28:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=htJ+g2DyNzz8X4dd6FgBJyFFeQL1zaOX2OoAIDEkqdQ=; b=d05HaqPWXXpqE9lfnUJ21cN2Fn7lYDfo2enyQIZ0R3jVzdLCHitHSF1FdA5iiFZH9j W/aNeAjEFFctRpZlLyuftI4yazcr9WMba6y/4MSVmI+HhI+SSwYEE/XDUqtQxjHxSyAB 6ydJx+8zCan3R++SngbX6kpyWWpmarU+UqzOJBwn+qMxQlMDduDk2z7CsDg15ms1E0AV cFKLvFz9XMHYTedPH0PRKOGp+Y4reCNxEXuPULZzn/zwAuVVXvKA5zUGzOQZSpBDl8/g XC8eLFlc8pxLbndhhsjxOgJqToYUPhMptnh38hAv+wFkhp6bEP7Kvi78N2SdAxvNtBxD 92fA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=htJ+g2DyNzz8X4dd6FgBJyFFeQL1zaOX2OoAIDEkqdQ=; b=e1rEY1mqy8yK6Pr7wR+oSl1RNoAOSMvLjsqDwm1mqg3JgiRJPGaaoUs6Xt5ycgmDoK JMmSqb/9tS54iYrqoRzcqaaRc4VIjnervx64mdtYqodR4sIYCsCy2xNu3gH6Gt76AVV7 MDfIWMH16NPpc3iFkYhCstTkVebXN9OzP/qiExpvaFwaxkpWK6H/UwRLot4ONTbqlrCT XTNk6bL4mKx9nqRyDFj0C+0LHz/BvACh9Bknjfhioe4gYs8TDQBMS509FmHMtKllkmpM xS3WbmLYGRr+X/Ou+IBSttpXm77dOdIL5o0A5Z8W0dtiUjP6NwPzwhLn3VMcNTasfiJA jrww== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUimSfEHguae/0+L2YKPbHogb9I1qCW5pQBL1hFOCQonDRbqDzhf 9wvRWsvuM0Vhju8ia6ye9hMynF57h3kryKMT+Gk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCRWc1a9pcBowwzAYTsYFWKdCtA8meraTHAKxvqJJTxXrzqdwst7ZjJfRZIytuR9Qzps0WcaYYuajZeNlaWx0o= X-Received: by 10.107.129.83 with SMTP id c80mr21201582iod.258.1505752113153; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:28:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.2.65.215 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:28:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:28:31 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Wacom vs Mouse To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113e6abed312940559793bba" --001a113e6abed312940559793bba Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" about the reliability of a wacom, then i can only agree with Byron. I can't count the times i have spilled a full cop of coffee over my wacoms, and after a day of drying it will work as good as ever, although with a new fresh odor :-) Robert 2017-09-18 18:10 GMT+02:00 Byron Nash : > I've used a Wacom almost solely since the 90's. If I use a mouse too long, > my hand cramps, but it feels ok with the tablet. I'm a fan of proportional > mapping and not mouse mode. I think there is benefit to muscle memory > because the spot on your tablet will always go to the same spot on the > screen. I do wish Wacom made a really long and wide tablet for dual screen > use. I have to sacrifice some of my tablet real estate when I switch to > dual monitors because I want proportional mapping on all the time. For the > pen, I've always preferred to have right-click the top and middle-click the > bottom. I have worked a lot in 3D animation and middle click is essential. > It also is convenient that the middle click when held acts like a scroll > wheel in web browsers and file explorers. I use my thumb on the button. I > have also known some folks who have mapped keyboard or tablet buttons to > the main click so they can be precise on the clicks. > > I've always wanted to be on a Cintiq, but the price tag has always kept my > employers from purchasing. My only complaint about the Cintiq is the apps > aren't really designed for you to have your arm on the screen. Sometimes > your hand is in the way. I feel like there could be some UI tweaks to make > that interaction better. > > One thing I like about Wacom is they last forever. I'm not sure I have > ever seen one go out. Even one I dropped off a loading dock once. > > Good luck finding something that works for you! > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:16 AM mike cardeiro > wrote: > >> I think I'd just bring my own mouse to work. Seriously, I think it would >> take years to retrain myself to using anything but a mouse. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Roei Tzoref >> *To:* After Effects Mail List >> *Sent:* Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:50 AM >> *Subject:* [AE] Wacom vs Mouse >> >> Hi, just bought the intuos pro medium. Trying to get into the habit of >> working soley with a Wacom Tablet. I don't paint, but I composite, animate, >> roto and track. Rarely used it before, but have been freelancing in a place >> that doesn't even have a mouse, so I want to make a smooth transition. >> >> I find it a struggle using the pen buttons. I set them to right click >> (the button near the tip) and scroll/pan (the other one). It's makes me >> move my hand slightly (and the cursor as a result) when I want to use them. >> >> Scrolling with the mouse wheel is a feature I use in Ae all the time. I >> am missing finer control there. Right click is also used a lot. Do any of >> you have a recommendation for a pen setup?maybe pen holding posture that >> could help make this easier? Or is it just something to bare through for a >> while? What do you use? What is your tablet position setup? >> >> >> >> >> --001a113e6abed312940559793bba Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
about the reliability of a wacom, then i can only agree wi= th Byron. I can't count the times i have spilled a full cop of coffee o= ver my wacoms, and after a day of drying it will work as good as ever, alth= ough with a new fresh odor :-)

Robert


2017-09-18 18:10 GMT+02= :00 Byron Nash <AE-List@media-motion.tv>:
I've used a Wacom almost solely = since the 90's. If I use a mouse too long, my hand cramps, but it feels= ok with the tablet. I'm a fan of proportional mapping and not mouse mo= de. I think there is benefit to muscle memory because the spot on your tabl= et will always go to the same spot on the screen. I do wish Wacom made a re= ally long and wide tablet for dual screen use. I have to sacrifice some of = my tablet real estate when I switch to dual monitors because I want proport= ional mapping on =C2=A0all the time. For the pen, I've always preferred= to have right-click the top and middle-click the bottom. I have worked a l= ot in 3D animation and middle click is essential. It also is convenient tha= t the middle click when held acts like a scroll wheel in web browsers and f= ile explorers. I use my thumb on the button. I have also known some folks w= ho have mapped keyboard or tablet buttons to the main click so they can be = precise on the clicks.=C2=A0

I've always wanted to b= e on a Cintiq, but the price tag has always kept my employers from purchasi= ng. My only complaint about the Cintiq is the apps aren't really design= ed for =C2=A0you to have your arm on the screen. Sometimes your hand is in = the way. I feel like there could be some UI tweaks to make that interaction= better.=C2=A0

One thing I like about Wacom is the= y last forever. I'm not sure I have ever seen one go out. Even one I dr= opped off a loading dock once.=C2=A0

Good luck fin= ding something that works for you!

On Mon, Sep 18, = 2017 at 9:16 AM mike cardeiro <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
I think I'd ju= st bring my own mouse to work.=C2=A0 Seriously, I think it would take years= to retrain myself to using anything but a mouse.

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From: Roei Tzoref <AE-List@media-motion.tv> To: After Effects Mail Lis= t <AE-List@= media-motion.tv>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 6:50 AM
Subject: [AE] Wacom vs Mouse
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Hi, just bought the intuos pro medium. Trying to get into the habit of wor= king soley with a Wacom Tablet. I don't paint, but I composite, animate= , roto and track. Rarely used it before, but have been freelancing in a pla= ce that doesn't even have a mouse, so I want to make a smooth transitio= n.

I find it a struggle us= ing the pen buttons. I set them to right click (the button near the tip) an= d scroll/pan (the other one). It's makes me move my hand slightly (and = the cursor as a result) when I want to use them.=C2=A0
Scrolling with the mouse wheel is a feature I = use in Ae all the time. I am missing finer control there. Right click is al= so used a lot. Do any of you have a recommendation for a pen setup?maybe pe= n holding posture that could help make this easier? Or is it just something= to bare through for a while? What do you use? What is your tablet position= setup?=C2=A0





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