From: "Phil Bearman" Received: from mail-ua0-f178.google.com ([209.85.217.178] verified) by media-motion.tv (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.0) with ESMTPS id 6333653 for AE-List@media-motion.tv; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 16:31:00 +0200 Received: by mail-ua0-f178.google.com with SMTP id h34so733825uaa.6 for ; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 07:33:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=philbearman-co-uk.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=zdjRv3hHPYzU4Rph1L178VUAnDFPw1OPzSJcTAl2y0o=; b=Yw3vTKB89xeP+5ugQLnYp0ox5Reyriqr/41A7jewJkokNCEHjeWLxkyKlwlpsKnXf3 uajHQJKalqgouLx20SIKz4I95OPKxZ3tgZ4tfH5zlxIBwNSEycxroExXtHNjDUjUUvxC w5auCPMNi6tukl6IE80x9vOzmgqZKnR5QIUj0Y3A6NMrgh4bQRLtF6IHT20pS5KEw8EG op/FoUMtTNfmeoBjyfwoICtTXq4b8WG28Xlt8ZMx15e43spDTmmWBmrehQVzNhL0eVO5 Je1xQjOipKWZIUYprp9jtgOBQsPBv84Wcu1xGCLopU6bToifuiKTZ0CAgBV21sUYNPYh eatA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=zdjRv3hHPYzU4Rph1L178VUAnDFPw1OPzSJcTAl2y0o=; b=ZvKsV82hLl3tkItWu+9LyY0WH/zElYbBb0WsB2adwuzJPlt5zWW6/4gdhLMRWVeYRx VHEjlLW2uOiWVo/Z+8crpwwJbHlWObX65sPwx8W0vxsvIMqT7CWYSm+ihyJm7aWbpwEL Nlejss1r9Rj+TqCgZj9k+3JyHO/ehlyJmjNzDvvyEiohRodF9gaaHpeP0w0QnHTQeWdO Oe+0tFiI5uqNg1YEi4pEvu6xo9ANKFsWiKmum9Ehp+PvklaOxS80Ht8aOamChwEMxwPH PDwix/BZBCAUeG7hWtEKwbCwGzDiuBJcmi3j8bsdoXZSDHya53s7Tn41lWJlS2LjBG2r ZaMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVXPrgF8hzXzZce70rgMFoj3tufjkV+L/f5qzmcI5XyzxdYmyXI MLFjddjKQXaZH8HxeS0pKLgXG1oA1CLPJeum4tXDppFz X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QC6BGq/v8XxmHJzqTg4ujOyxRbftlqNtki4etXjCMTSG+Qrq6c6C3B5f9at+lflf1XfwbxgglJbPwMY2V1qAeo= X-Received: by 10.176.26.166 with SMTP id j38mr4868151uai.25.1507559579722; Mon, 09 Oct 2017 07:32:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.72.12 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Oct 2017 07:32:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2017 15:32:59 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [AE] Inaccurate marker timings in CC 2017 To: After Effects Mail List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045f2c283a390a055b1e110f" --f403045f2c283a390a055b1e110f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Mathias - your extension sounds very useful! --=20 *Phil Bearman* *Phil Bearman Creative Media Solutions* Motion Graphics Design PhilBearman.co.uk 0161 236 2581 - 9am-5pm, Monday-Friday This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. 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On 7 October 2017 at 08:08, Mathias M=C3=B6hl wro= te: > Hi Phil, > Filing a bug report is always a good idea, the Ae team is really happy > about any feedback! > > If you need to generate beat markers frequently, you might consider using > my extension BeatEdit for Premiere Pro to write beat markers in the audio > files that then also show up as clip markers in Ae. > Here is a one minute tutorial showing this workflow: > https://mamoworld.com/tutorials/beatmarkers-after- > effects-beatedit-premiere-pro > > Cheers, > Mathias > > > On 06 Oct 2017, at 13:22, Phil Bearman wrote: > > Does anybody else find that adding markers in time with audio is extremel= y > inaccurate in CC 2017? > > I've found in previous versions that when I added markers to the beat of = a > piece of music they were typically a couple of frames out, but were > consistently out so that I could just correct them using Rift. > > In CC2017 they get further and further out of sync as the timeline > progresses. In a project I've just been working on the first marker was > out by about 10 frames, and after 30 seconds the markers were about 30 > frames out, meaning I'm having to manually reposition the markers. > > See a screenshot here - https://imgur.com/a/bjX4A - showing a simple > drum track where I've tapped out markers on every other beat with the > asterisk key. (This is in an empty project with nothing other than the dr= um > track imported). > > They start off 2 frames out and over the course of 10 seconds they have > drifted to 7 frames out. > > If I repeat the same experiment in CC 2014 they are consistently 2 frames > out. > > It does seem like another example of degraded performance in CC2017 vs > earlier versions. > > Just wanted to see if anybody else experiences this before I file a bug > report. > > Cheers, > Phil > -- > > *Phil Bearman* > > *Phil Bearman Creative Media Solutions* > Motion Graphics Design > > PhilBearman.co.uk > > > 0161 236 2581 - 9am-5pm, Monday-Friday > > This message contains confidential information and is intended only for > the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not > disseminate, distribute or copy this E-Mail. Please notify the sender > immediately by E-Mail if you have received this E-Mail by mistake and > delete the E-Mail from your system. 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Thanks Mathias - your extension sounds very useful!
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On 7 October 2017 at 08:08, Mathias M=C3=B6h= l <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:
Hi Phil,
Fil= ing a bug report is always a good idea, the Ae team is really happy about a= ny feedback!

If you need to generate beat markers freque= ntly, you might consider using my extension BeatEdit for Premiere Pro to wr= ite beat markers in the audio files that then also show up as clip markers = in Ae.
Here is a one minute tutorial showing this workflow:
=

Cheers,
Mathias


On 06 Oct 2017, = at 13:22, Phil Bearman <AE-List@media-motion.tv> wrote:

Does anyb= ody else find that adding markers in time with audio is extremely inaccurat= e in CC 2017?

I've found in previous versions that w= hen I added markers to the beat of a piece of music they were typically a c= ouple of frames out, but were consistently out so that I could just correct= them using Rift.

In CC2017 they get further and f= urther out of sync as the timeline progresses.=C2=A0 In a project I've = just been working on the first marker was out by about 10 frames, and after= 30 seconds the markers were about 30 frames out, meaning I'm having to= manually reposition the markers.=C2=A0

See a screenshot here= -=C2=A0 https://im= gur.com/a/bjX4A=C2=A0- showing a simple drum track where I've tappe= d out markers on every other beat with the asterisk key. (This is in an emp= ty project with nothing other than the drum track imported).

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They start off 2 frames out and over the course of 10 seconds th= ey have drifted to 7 frames out.

If I repeat the s= ame experiment in CC 2014 they are consistently 2 frames out.
It does seem like another example of degraded performance in CC= 2017 vs earlier versions.

Just wanted to see if an= ybody else experiences this before I file a bug report.

Cheers,
Phil
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Phil Bearman

Phi= l Bearman Creative Media Solutions=20
Motion Graphics Design

Phi= lBearman.co.uk


0161 236 2581 - 9am-5pm, Monday-Friday

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